A Guilty Man

[Charles Collins]

This thread is a companion to the “An Innocent Man” thread that I started earlier today. It is related to the same crime that Richard Jewell was charged with. The perpetrator of the crime wrote this:

In the summer of 1996, the world converged upon Atlanta for the Olympic Games. Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Multinational corporations spent billions of dollars, and Washington organized an army of security to protect these best of all games. Even though the conception and the purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is to promote the values of global socialism as perfectly expressed in the song "Imagine" by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games—even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27 was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand. The plan was to force the cancellation of the games, or at least create a state of insecurity to empty the streets around the venues and thereby eat into the vast amounts of money invested.

Here is a link to a Wikipedia article that the above quote is from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph

There are some comparisons that can be made between him and LHO. I will start with:

They both are considered to be militant fanatics (zealots) with political causes.

Feel free to add your own comparisons.

Some of the items in the article are just plain scary. For instance, his brother purposely cutting off his own hand in order to “make a statement.”

[Charles Collins]

The book “The Suspect” by Kent Alexander and Kevin Salween, details a great many more details of the story than does the movie “Richard Jewell.” Including details of the real terrorist and three other bombings he was responsible for. There are quite a few similarities between him and LHO and I do recommend this book for those who might be interested.

One interesting similarity that jumped out at me when I read it was this one:

Rudolph watched as prosecutors outlined the “factual basis,” the evidence they would have presented at trial. At the conclusion, U.S. District Judge Lynwood Smith asked the defendant if the government had proved its case in the bombing of a Birmingham women’s clinic. “Just barely, your honor,” Rudolph replied. “But let me just cut to the chase,” the judge said. “Did you plant the bomb that exploded at the New Woman All Women clinic?” “I certainly did, your honor.” Observers couldn’t miss his smirk. Soon after, Judge Smith declared, “The defendant is now adjudged guilty.”

[Walt Cakebread]

The book “The Suspect” by Kent Alexander and Kevin Salween, details a great many more details of the story than does the movie “Richard Jewell.” Including details of the real terrorist and three other bombings he was responsible for. There are quite a few similarities between him and LHO and I do recommend this book for those who might be interested.

One interesting similarity that jumped out at me when I read it was this one:

Rudolph watched as prosecutors outlined the “factual basis,” the evidence they would have presented at trial. At the conclusion, U.S. District Judge Lynwood Smith asked the defendant if the government had proved its case in the bombing of a Birmingham women’s clinic. “Just barely, your honor,” Rudolph replied. “But let me just cut to the chase,” the judge said. “Did you plant the bomb that exploded at the New Woman All Women clinic?” “I certainly did, your honor.” Observers couldn’t miss his smirk. Soon after, Judge Smith declared, “The defendant is now adjudged guilty.”

“Did you plant the bomb that exploded at the New Woman All Women clinic?” “I certainly did, your honor.” Observers couldn’t miss his smirk.

Similarity??   .... Mr Oswald, did you shoot the President ?   " No Sir, Nobody has said that to me yet.... The first I heard that was when a a reporter,  Gulp, ( choking back emotion at learning that JFK had been killed)  in the hall asked me that question" 

[Charles Collins]

“Did you plant the bomb that exploded at the New Woman All Women clinic?” “I certainly did, your honor.” Observers couldn’t miss his smirk.

Similarity??   .... Mr Oswald, did you shoot the President ?   " No Sir, Nobody has said that to me yet.... The first I heard that was when a a reporter,  Gulp, ( choking back emotion at learning that JFK had been killed)  in the hall asked me that question" 

The similarity is the smirk (I bolded that sentence).

However, if LHO had been in a position to plea bargain his way out of the electric chair (like the terrorist did), I am reasonably sure he would have pled guilty. And I am almost positive that he would have had a smirk on his face...

[Walt Cakebread]

The similarity is the smirk (I bolded that sentence).

However, if LHO had been in a position to plea bargain his way out of the electric chair (like the terrorist did), I am reasonably sure he would have pled guilty. And I am almost positive that he would have had a smirk on his face...

Charlie,.... I've seen the video of Lee at the mid-night "press conference" that was held to give Jack Ruby a chance to shoot Lee....and I've not detected a "smirk".     I have seen deep grief and choked back tears by Lee at that conference... The cops saw it also, and shut down the conference immediately.    After all how would it have looked for the police if Lee had burst into tears after he learned from the reporter that President Kennedy had been killed.   

[Charles Collins]

Charlie,.... I've seen the video of Lee at the mid-night "press conference" that was held to give Jack Ruby a chance to shoot Lee....and I've not derected a "smirk".     I have seen deep grief and choked back tears by Lee at that conference... The cops saw it also, and shut down the conference immediately.    After all how would it have looked for the police if Lee burst into tears after he learned from the reporter that President Kennedy had been killed.

The words of Bill Mercer from “When the News Went Live”:

As police concluded the “press conference” and Oswald started to turn, I stood up with the mike in my hand. When he was again asked, “Did you kill the president?” Oswald looked toward me and said, “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.” He pronounced it “axed.” I looked into his face and said, “You have been charged.” Oswald looked a little blank and moved his head backward in a natural reflective response. And then he was taken back to his cell on the fifth floor.

[Walt Cakebread]

The words of Bill Mercer from “When the News Went Live”:

As police concluded the “press conference” and Oswald started to turn, I stood up with the mike in my hand. When he was again asked, “Did you kill the president?” Oswald looked toward me and said, “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.” He pronounced it “axed.” I looked into his face and said, “You have been charged.” Oswald looked a little blank and moved his head backward in a natural reflective response. And then he was taken back to his cell on the fifth floor.

As police concluded the “press conference” and Oswald started to turn, I stood up with the mike in my hand. When he was again asked, “Did you kill the president?” Oswald looked toward me and said, “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.” He pronounced it “axed.” I looked into his face and said, “You have been charged.” Oswald looked a little blank and moved his head backward in a natural reflective response. And then he was taken back to his cell on the fifth floor.

Charlie, I believe that the reporter has twisted the information a tad.... The "conference" was NOT being concluded....It had just started.

I believe that this is an accurate quote of what Lee said....

 “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.”

However the written words do not accurately convey the truth...   Lee's facial expression added to the meaning of his words.
You can hear him choke back emotion when he said the word "hall".....  “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the... hall.. asked me that question.”

I believe that what Lee said was true....   He wasn't aware until that moment that President Kennedy had been killed., and it came as a shock to him.

The reporter told Lee that he had been charged.... And Lee's disdainful glare at the reporter spoke volumes....   The facial expression and  body language clearly told the reporter that he was an idiot and didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

[Charles Collins]

As police concluded the “press conference” and Oswald started to turn, I stood up with the mike in my hand. When he was again asked, “Did you kill the president?” Oswald looked toward me and said, “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.” He pronounced it “axed.” I looked into his face and said, “You have been charged.” Oswald looked a little blank and moved his head backward in a natural reflective response. And then he was taken back to his cell on the fifth floor.

Charlie, I believe that the reporter has twisted the information a tad.... The "conference" was NOT being concluded....It had just started.

I believe that this is an accurate quote of what Lee said....

 “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the hall asked me that question.”

However the written words do not accurately convey the truth...   Lee's facial expression added to the meaning of his words.
You can hear him choke back emotion when he said the word "hall".....  “No, I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody has said that to me yet. The first thing I heard about it was when the newspaper reporters in the... hall.. asked me that question.”

I believe that what Lee said was true....   He wasn't aware until that moment that President Kennedy had been killed., and it came as a shock to him.

The reporter told Lee that he had been charged.... And Lee's disdainful glare at the reporter spoke volumes....   The facial expression and  body language clearly told the reporter that he was an idiot and didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

Bill Mercer was in front of the room kneeling with the microphone so that LHO’s responses could be heard by the broadcast audience. He was very close and looking at LHO’s face. I choose to believe his interpretation of LHO’s reaction. You can continue to believe your version as far as I am concerned. But it makes no sense to me.