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Offline John Mytton

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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2018, 11:21:45 PM »
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Mytton claimed the "only unaccounted person seen with a rifle in Dealey Plaza was a slender white male seen on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository", which is demonstrably false.



Well go ahead and demonstrate who else besides Oswald was seen with a rifle in Dealey Plaza?
And then explain how Oswald's rifle with his prints and shirt fibers were found on the same floor?
Then explain why the Sniper's nest area where Oswald was seen was covered with his prints?
Then explain why Oswald left the building immediately?
Then explain why Oswald felt the need to kill a Police Officer, the first Dallas Police Officer killed on duty by gunfire since 1960?
Then explain why Oswald tried to kill more Police at the Texas Theater?

Btw this time please support your opinions with evidence, k!



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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2018, 11:21:45 PM »


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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2018, 12:14:47 AM »
Well go ahead and demonstrate who else besides Oswald was seen with a rifle in Dealey Plaza?

Loaded question.  Demonstrate that Oswald was seen with a rifle in Dealey Plaza.  All you've demonstrated is that a guy (eventually) claimed that he saw Oswald with a rifle.  Just like there's another guy who claimed he saw a guy with a rifle behind the knoll.

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And then explain how Oswald's rifle with his prints and shirt fibers were found on the same floor?

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.  And fibers that were similar.  LOL.

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Then explain why the Sniper's nest area where Oswald was seen was covered with his prints?

Uh, his job was to get books out of boxes?

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Then explain why Oswald left the building immediately?

On a day when all the employees were dismissed?

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Then explain why Oswald felt the need to kill a Police Officer,

Demonstrate that Oswald felt the need to kill a Police Officer.  Because "utter screwball" said it was him after saying "no" six times?

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the first Dallas Police Officer killed on duty by gunfire since 1960?

How is that even relevant?

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Then explain why Oswald tried to kill more Police at the Texas Theater?

That claim has been thoroughly debunked.  Repeatedly.  There's no evidence that Oswald tried to kill anybody at the Texas Theater.

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Btw this time please support your opinions with evidence, k!

Why, you never do.  You just make claims like "Oswald's rifle" over and over again.

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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2018, 12:20:15 AM »
Mytton claimed the "only unaccounted person seen with a rifle in Dealey Plaza was a slender white male seen on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository", which is demonstrably false.  It has nothing to do with what I believe.  Hoffman said he saw another person with a rifle, just like Brennan said he saw a white male on the 6th floor with a rifle.  You accept Brennan and reject Hoffman because Brennan said something you want to hear.


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Mytton claimed...

And then YOU stated that Ed Hoffman saw two men behind the fence break down a rifle.


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You accept Brennan and reject Hoffman because Brennan said something you want to hear.

How about you stop attributing things to me that I have never stated or argued in favor of?  Do you think you can do that for me?  Maybe at least try?  A little?
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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2018, 12:33:28 AM »
Loaded question.  Demonstrate that Oswald was seen with a rifle in Dealey Plaza.  All you've demonstrated is that a guy (eventually) claimed that he saw Oswald with a rifle.  Just like there's another guy who claimed he saw a guy with a rifle behind the knoll.

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.  And fibers that were similar.  LOL.

Uh, his job was to get books out of boxes?

On a day when all the employees were dismissed?

Demonstrate that Oswald felt the need to kill a Police Officer.  Because "utter screwball" said it was him after saying "no" six times?

How is that even relevant?

That claim has been thoroughly debunked.  Repeatedly.  There's no evidence that Oswald tried to kill anybody at the Texas Theater.

Why, you never do.  You just make claims like "Oswald's rifle" over and over again.




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"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.

Yes, Oswald's rifle was found at Oswald's work, geez what are the chances?

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And fibers that were similar.  LOL.

No fiber evidence ever will be conclusive but that's not the point, fiber evidence is still relevant in 2018 and is still an important forensic tool used worldwide, it comes down to statistics and unfortunately for your case the prohibitive probability is that Oswald's shirt fibers were on that rifle.

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Uh, his job was to get books out of boxes?

Sure, but it wasn't Oswald's job to touch each and every one of the hundreds perhaps thousands of boxes on the 6th floor, yet in the sniper's nest we find Oswald's prints again, again and again.

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On a day when all the employees were dismissed?

Shelley was Oswald's supervisor.

Mr. BALL. Did you at anytime after the President was shot tell Oswald to go home?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.


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That claim has been thoroughly debunked.

By whom, you? LOL!



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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2018, 05:33:16 PM »
And then YOU stated that Ed Hoffman saw two men behind the fence break down a rifle.

And Mytton said that Brennan saw a slender white male with a rifle.  What's your point?

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How about you stop attributing things to me that I have never stated or argued in favor of?  Do you think you can do that for me?  Maybe at least try?  A little?

Are you saying that you don't believe Brennan?

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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2018, 05:33:16 PM »


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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2018, 05:38:25 PM »
Yes, Oswald's rifle was found at Oswald's work, geez what are the chances?

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.

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No fiber evidence ever will be conclusive but that's not the point, fiber evidence is still relevant in 2018 and is still an important forensic tool used worldwide, it comes down to statistics and unfortunately for your case the prohibitive probability is that Oswald's shirt fibers were on that rifle.

What are the statistics, John?  And how do you know?  You can either prove they came from that shirt or you cannot.

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Sure, but it wasn't Oswald's job to touch each and every one of the hundreds perhaps thousands of boxes on the 6th floor, yet in the sniper's nest we find Oswald's prints again, again and again.

Is this supposed to prove that Oswald shot somebody?

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Shelley was Oswald's supervisor.

Mr. BALL. Did you at anytime after the President was shot tell Oswald to go home?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.


That doesn't preclude Oswald overhearing employees being dismissed.

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By whom, you? LOL!

By multiple people.  You have actually not providing a single shred of evidence that "Oswald tried to kill police at the Texas Theater".  You just assumed that he did.

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Re: What If Grassy Knoll Sounds And Smoke Were "Only" A Diversion
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2018, 05:38:25 PM »