What did SS agent Kellerman mean by, "A flurry of shells come into the car?"

[Jake Maxwell]

As Royell ignores all the witnesses who said there were less than four shots, and there was no flurry of shots.

Let's not ignore Kellerman as a witness...
Kellerman was the head SA on site that day...
He used the word "flurry" twice in his testimony...
He was actually sitting in Kennedy's limousine when JFK was shot...

Those facts alone should weigh Kellerman's testimony heavy in the balance...

[Royell Storing]

As Royell ignores all the witnesses who said there were less than four shots, and there was no flurry of shots.

    I "ignore" no eyewitness whatever they claim to have seen and/or heard. Mytton is on record as to ALL eyewitness testimony being unreliable. THAT is an immediate DQ as it reveals a prejudice which prevents rendering an Impartial Judgement.

[John Iacoletti]

Mytton is on record as to ALL eyewitness testimony being unreliable.

Actually that was me.  And I stand by it.  This is well understood by people who study human brains and memory.

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/13/557424726/elizabeth-loftus-how-can-our-memories-be-manipulated

[Brian Walker]

Let's not ignore Kellerman as a witness...
Kellerman was the head SA on site that day...
He used the word "flurry" twice in his testimony...
He was actually sitting in Kennedy's limousine when JFK was shot...

Those facts alone should weigh Kellerman's testimony heavy in the balance...

Kellerman never said he heard more than three shots. He used a vague word like flurry that you are trying to make something out of.


Of all the jamming square pegs into round holes that Ct's do one of my favorites is trying to build up a witness to make it seem like he could not be wrong.  In this case you are doing it by claiming that Kellerman being the head SA on the site that day is supposed to mean something regarding his reliability about how many shots were fired. Like being head SA has anything to do with it.  LIke they have training in that or even if training for that would be possible.  CT's do the same things with the cops who were near.  Like a cop has to be more reliably than anyone else there about exactly what happened.


They also do it if someone was close to the limo like whoever is the closest should be considered the most reliable.

[Jake Maxwell]

Kellerman never said he heard more than three shots. He used a vague word like flurry that you are trying to make something out of.


Of all the jamming square pegs into round holes that Ct's do one of my favorites is trying to build up a witness to make it seem like he could not be wrong.  In this case you are doing it by claiming that Kellerman being the head SA on the site that day is supposed to mean something regarding his reliability about how many shots were fired. Like being head SA has anything to do with it.  LIke they have training in that or even if training for that would be possible.  CT's do the same things with the cops who were near.  Like a cop has to be more reliably than anyone else there about exactly what happened.


They also do it if someone was close to the limo like whoever is the closest should be considered the most reliable.

Actually, in a court of law, proximity to events means something.
And so does a person's training...
And so do the words a person uses...

[Brian Walker]

Actually, in a court of law, proximity to events means something.
And so does a person's training...
And so do the words a person uses...

That would be up to a jury to decide.  Not sure why anyone would make the claim that standing closer to the limo somehow gives you better insight on how many shots were fired.

Kellerman was trained to be able to tell how many shots there were? Describe that training please.

Kellerman never said he heard more than three shots.

[Jake Maxwell]

That would be up to a jury to decide.  Not sure why anyone would make the claim that standing closer to the limo somehow gives you better insight on how many shots were fired.

Kellerman was trained to be able to tell how many shots there were? Describe that training please.

Kellerman never said he heard more than three shots.

Kellerman was not standing close to the Limo... he was sitting in the Limo...

Every Secret Service Agent gets extensive training in firearms, and is certainly trained to be more alert in crisis situations...

Kellerman used the word "flurry" at least twice in his testimony... That should mean something, unless you think Kellerman used words without knowing their meanings...

Furthermore:

No jury would think "flurry" is two...

No attorney would be allowed to ask leading questions like the WC members did over and over...

Hearing shots fired can be very much different than the number of shots fired... Silencers can be used, and simultaneous firing can cover other shots...

Kellerman said a "flurry of shots" came into the Limo, and to give support to what he experienced, he mentioned four wounds on the president, three on Connally, and referred to the crack on the windshield...

This "flurry of shots" is most likely why Governor Connally exclaimed, "My God, they're going to kill us all!"...

[Chris Bristow]

Whether the 'flurry' was two shots or more seems to miss a more basic issue. The time between shots is what makes it improbable that he would call it a flurry. Also I believe his first account of this was " A flurry of shells, "all at once".