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Online Richard Smith

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Re: The Ambush
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2018, 08:13:28 PM »
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First..supposedly left $$ and ring behind ...he was ready for the end...supposedly. Hell shoot the bodyguards they were sitting ducks too.
second...there was no windshield in the way silly. What windshield from 60 ft up?

 

A perfectly clear shot right between the eyes.

  Grip the reality for once.
Third...how would you know third? Were you there?
Oh --you must have held a seance while you were sitting in the restroom >:(   

 

You asked a question that necessitates speculation since the assassin Oswald is the only one who knows for sure.  Then you criticize a reasoned response for containing speculation.  Typical kook. Do you really believe that photo you posted shows JFKs position on Houston St. from the 6th floor?  LOL.  There were two rows of people in front of JFK.  Even if possible to have made the shot, why risk it when he had a clear view of JFK from behind?  Oswald certainly recognized the inherent dangers of assassinating the president as evidenced by his leaving his wedding ring and money with Marina.  He accepted the likelihood of arrest or death in the commission of this act but that doesn't mean he would be foolhardy by blasting away while the SS were facing him.  Why do that when he had a clear shot at JFK from behind?  Suggesting he would have an OK Corral type shootout with the secret service is CTer comedy gold.  That's worthy of Caprio.  He at least wanted to commit the act before getting killed.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2018, 08:25:28 PM »
Yes, the fantasy conspirators spent months or years setting Oswald up as the patsy and then at the moment of the assassination just let him wander off where he could have inadvertently obtained an alibi.  LOL.

"Richard's" fantasy conspirators strawman.  LOL.

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2018, 08:27:32 PM »
Oswald certainly recognized the inherent dangers of assassinating the president as evidenced by his leaving his wedding ring and money with Marina.

Nobody making a silly argument like that has any business calling other people kooks.

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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2018, 09:59:10 PM »


Why would a sniper wait until a target is eluding a perfect kill zone ...turning off and heading away into cover of signs and trees and then open fire?

Please study up on sniper fire and leading the target.

It is much easier to lead the target as it is heading away from you (in an almost straight direction) than it is to lead the target as it is heading towards you.

Oswald knew this.  You do not, apparently.

Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2018, 12:55:55 AM »
Please study up on sniper fire and leading the target.

It is much easier to lead the target as it is heading away from you (in an almost straight direction) than it is to lead the target as it is heading towards you.

Oswald knew this.  You do not, apparently.




That's right Bill, there are a number of reasons why Oswald's rifle rest boxes along with Oswald's prints were orientated down Elm Street.

1. As you say when you're high and the target is moving towards you it quickly drops out of your sights but when the Limo was going down Elm street the limo stays in the sights longer and considering that Elm street goes downhill that only adds to the available time.

In the following gif in frames 1 and 2 you can see that the Limo when coming down Houston doesn't stay in the sights for very long.
In frame 3 when the limo is passing right in front the Limo only is in the sights for a fraction of a second
But in frame 4 when the Limo is headed away the limo is in the sights for a longer time and is the more logical shot.



2. To fire down Houston puts you in full sunlight instead of in the relative shadows.
3. In the open Oswald would be shot by a hail of machine gun bullets.
4. To shoot directly down when Kennedy was right in front would mean that Oswald would need to be virtually standing to pull off that shot.
5. The angular velocity is highest when the target is moving in a line in front of you.



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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2018, 02:37:49 AM »
Please study up on sniper fire and leading the target.

You guys can quit pretending that you know and that Oswald knew something about combat.
He was never engaged in any armed conflict. 
If any of you critics were deployed to Viet Nam or in the Mid-east please speak up about your combat training....I will read it with interest. 
A  really serious gunman armed with a piece of crap loaded with four bullets?
Ridiculous!
Oswald had no history of having shot anybody except supposedly himself.....get real.
From Mad Jack Mytonn's post earlier point by point-----------------
 1. That silly clip does not show a 120 degree left turn at 5-8 MPH or less-It was speeded up coming to and then slowed down going away- that was really slick ...anyone can see that- -how pitiful!
 2. The sunlight actually had more glare coming from the west.
Look at the shadow on the window again and look at the kids face observing the event....how the sun is shining directly into his face.




 3. A gunman from an elevated position could theoretically take out everybody in both cars.
 4. Oswald standing? Ha! Didn't some witness say he was?


 5.

A left handed shooter would take a better prone position swinging to the right. However, a righthander swinging a track to the right is awkward. No, take the shot at the turn.
The Secret Service guys were impotent as far as firing into elevated windows random scam.
Do you guys suggest...




That's DPD Sgt Jerry Hill but I think it's the wrong window.  :D




Offline Michael Walton

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Re: The Ambush
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2018, 02:38:46 AM »
It's a very simple matter of why he didn't take the shot when the car was on Houston - because he knew that if he missed, he'd have help further down on Elm Street. That way, if he missed, he would give himself more time to put the gun between the boxes, waltz down to the 2nd floor whistling a tune, buy an ice cold Coca Cola, crack it open and take a refreshing first sip.

He knew, too, that no one would suspect him because of his casual Coca Cola drinking demeanor.  And sure enough that's what happened when he was confronted by Baker.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: The Ambush
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2018, 03:53:32 AM »
Prove that "Oswald knew this."




Well duh, Oswald's rifle rest boxes and Oswald prints were all orientated down Elm street therefore the only logical deduction is that "Oswald knew this".



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Re: The Ambush
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2018, 03:53:32 AM »