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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #112 on: January 24, 2018, 08:36:58 PM »
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Yet another thing that Bookhout got wrong in his report.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #112 on: January 24, 2018, 08:36:58 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #113 on: January 24, 2018, 10:03:20 PM »
Did Randle actually say the bag was three feet long or was it also something Bookhaut assumed?

Or maybe she said "2 feet", and Bookhout mistakenly wrote down 3.

Mrs. RANDLE. And this goes this way, right? Do you want me to hold it?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mrs. RANDLE. About this.
Mr. BALL. Is that about right? That is 28 1/2 inches.
Mrs. RANDLE. I measured 27 last time.
Mr. BALL. You measured 27 once before?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #114 on: January 24, 2018, 11:42:23 PM »
Randle speaks to a longer length here:

Impossible to know without understanding what "almost touched the ground" means or how his hand was situated at the time.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #114 on: January 24, 2018, 11:42:23 PM »


Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #115 on: January 24, 2018, 11:46:42 PM »
Thank you for posting the Hosty note that Billy Bob Brown said didn't exist......You clearly are too gullible and afraid to admit that the authorities were the killers.....   But let's let others decide if  Lee told them that He'd seen the carcano and two other rifles in the possession of Mr Truly on Wednesday November 20......

Why do you and Iacoletti like to attribute statements to other forum members which were never said?  I did not say the Hosty note didn't exist.  I said that you misinterpreted it.

You don't know how to read Hosty's notes; that is not my problem.
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #116 on: January 24, 2018, 11:53:21 PM »

It's not a matter of voting......Hosty wrote ....." Mr Truly had rifle & 2 others"......

Ask any elementary school student to explain that short sentence to you.......

That's not what he wrote, though.  This is what you're wrong about.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #117 on: January 25, 2018, 12:01:15 AM »
That's not what he wrote, though.  This is what you're wrong about.

Hosty did write that, Bill.  There's just no reason to think that "2 others" meant "2 other rifles".



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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #118 on: January 25, 2018, 12:22:29 AM »
Hosty did write that, Bill.  There's just no reason to think that "2 others" meant "2 other rifles".



No.  That is not what he wrote, John.

Both you and Cakebread need to familiarize yourselves with the use of the inverted caret symbol.

Hosty's note, on the top line which you highlighted in yellow, says:

"Mr. Truly had"

In the second line, Hosty noted only one word:

"rifle"

Then, at some later point in time (whether it be only minutes later or days later once he had the opportunity to go over his notes to make things more clear and accurate), Hosty added the inverted caret symbol along with "2 others".

Notice that Hosty's use use of the inverted caret symbol along with "2 others" is written in much darker ink, which suggests that it was added later.  If you don't notice it in the area which you highlighted in yellow, then go a few pages back and look at the same without the yellow highlight.

Hiosty's use of the inverted caret symbol makes the note actually read:

"day before yesterday
Mr Truly 2 others had
rifle
1st floor outside
office"



Hosty didn't use the inverted caret symbol correctly, but it didn't have to be correct, as long as he understood.  They were only his notes, after all.

The inverted caret symbol is NOT an ampersand logo.
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2018, 12:58:58 AM »
Thanks, you confirmed what I suspected.

Assumed is probably the right word.

Did Randle actually say the bag was three feet long or was it also something Bookhaut assumed?




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Thanks, you confirmed what I suspected.

Well of course, everyone is familiar with a driveway at the front of a house and it's a reasonable assumption.

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Assumed is probably the right word.

Under the circumstance that has to be the right conclusion, the only possible discrepancy that I can see is that he wrote the address at the start "LINNIE MAE RANDLE, 2439 West Fifth Street, Irving, Texas, phone Blackburn 3-8965".
The next part of the FBI report is most pertinent and everything falls into place because the interview wasn't conducted at her home but elsewhere "was interviewed at the Dallas Police Department" and the unfamiliarity with the property and not knowing that the back door was a busy thoroughfare, led to what Bookhout thought was a logical conclusion.

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Did Randle actually say the bag was three feet long or was it also something Bookhaut assumed?

I don't see the correlation, an assumption based on what, the above assumption was based on something unseen whereas Linnie Mae was there and Bookhout could see her mouth moving and wrote what she said.



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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2018, 12:58:58 AM »