Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?

[Martin Weidmann]

Because my legitimate question points out the double standard in your legitimate question.

You already know the answer to your legitimate question, Socrates.  So what if nobody but Frazier said that Fritz told him to sign a confession?

And now you can wait for another hypocritical answer about how the "Fritz confession" story is questionable because only Frazier said it and how the "curtain rods" story is credible because.... wait for it; Frazier said it!

[John Iacoletti]

And now you can wait for another hypocritical answer about how the "Fritz confession" story is questionable because only Frazier said it and how the "curtain rods" story is credible because.... wait for it; Frazier said it!

That's the double standard I was getting at.

[Bill Brown]

Obviously, because you make believe that Oswald carried a rifle in a bag.

I don't.  But you seem to think that it was impossible, or you wouldn't have considered "Marina didn't even get out of bed until after Lee was gone" to be a rebuttal to "Marina stated that she thought Lee took his lunch in a small paper bag that morning".

Obviously, because you make believe that Oswald carried a rifle in a bag.

No.  Even if the old forum wasn't erased, you would never have been able to quote me arguing that Oswald carried a rifle in that bag.  Just how many times are you going to be wrong about things like this?

I don't.

That's right.  You don't know that Lee would have taken a bag into the bedroom as he said goodbye to Marina that morning.  Yet, for some reason, you felt the need to argue in favor of it even if for only a minute.

But you seem to think that it was impossible, or you wouldn't have considered "Marina didn't even get out of bed until after Lee was gone" to be a rebuttal to "Marina stated that she thought Lee took his lunch in a small paper bag that morning".

Wrong again.  I absolutely do not think that it was impossible for Lee to have taken a lunch sack into the bedroom when he said goodbye to Marina that morning.  I didn't argue that at all.  It is you who stated that Marina certainly could have seen a lunch sack in Lee's hands when he left that morning.  Of course she could have, IF Lee took the sack into the bedroom with him.

All I did was point out to you the FACT that you have no way of knowing whether Lee took the sack into the bedroom with him or not and therefore, your point (like so many times before) is invalid.

[Bill Brown]

Because my legitimate question points out the double standard in your legitimate question.

You already know the answer to your legitimate question, Socrates.  So what if nobody but Frazier said that Fritz told him to sign a confession?

I have no double standards.

So, now you believe that you can answer for Tony Fratini?  How about you let Tony Fratini answer the question of whether or not he had ever heard (from anyone other than Buell Frazier) of Buell Frazier being asked by Fritz to sign a confession.  Okay?

[Bill Brown]

And now you can wait for another hypocritical answer about how the "Fritz confession" story is questionable because only Frazier said it and how the "curtain rods" story is credible because.... wait for it; Frazier said it!

You two are like Dumb and Dumber.

Neither of you have any idea of what the purpose of my question to Tony Fratini was, just as neither of you have any idea what my "answer" will be to any of your posts.  It is the two of you who are the predictable ones.

Do you wish to discuss the case or would you rather keep pretending that you know how I am gong to respond to the posts of others?

[Bill Chapman]

You two are like Dumb and Dumber.

Neither of you have any idea of what the purpose of my question to Tony Fratini was, just as neither of you have any idea what my "answer" will be to any of your posts.  It is the two of you who are the predictable ones.

Do you wish to discuss the case or would you rather keep pretending that you know how I am gong to respond to the posts of others?

The reading comprehension skills of CTers are nothing short of astounding.

[John Iacoletti]

All I did was point out to you the FACT that you have no way of knowing whether Lee took the sack into the bedroom with him or not

Thanks, Captain Obvious.

and therefore, your point (like so many times before) is invalid.

Wrong.  Your point was irrelevant:

Marina stated that she thought Lee took his lunch in a small paper bag that morning.

Marina didn't even get out of bed until after Lee was gone.

There's nothing invalid about pointing out your irrelevant "rebuttal".

[Martin Weidmann]

Hardly, Linnie initially told the FBI the bag was 3 foot which just happened to be the size of the bag found with Oswald's prints, geez Tony what are the chances?

And as for Frazier he wasn't paying attention yet for you 54 years later this bag is the most important object on this planet but to Frazier on the morning of the 22nd he truly couldn't give a stuff, why do you fail to comprehend this?

Mr. BALL - All right.
When you got in the car did you say anything to him or did he say anything to you?
Mr. FRAZIER - Let's see, when I got in the car I have a kind of habit of glancing over my shoulder and so at that time I noticed there was a package laying on the back seat, I didn't pay too much attention and I said, "What's the package, Lee?"
And he said, "Curtain rods," and I said, "Oh, yes, you told me you was going to bring some today."
That is the reason, the main reason he was going over there that Thursday afternoon when he was to bring back some curtain rods, so I didn't think any more about it when he told me that.



Mr. BALL - Did it look to you as if there was something heavy in the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I will be frank with you, I didn't pay much attention to the package because like I say before and after he told me that it was curtain rods and I didn't pay any attention to it, and he never had lied to me before so I never did have any reason to doubt his word.


Mr. BALL - Well, from the way he carried it, the way he walked, did it appear he was carrying something that had more than the weight of a paper?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, you know like I say, I didn't pay much attention to the package other than I knew he had it under his arm and I didn't pay too much attention the way he was walking because I was walking along there looking at the railroad cars and watching the men on the diesel switch them cars and I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all.



Mr. BALL - You will notice that this bag which is the colored bag, FBI Exhibit No. 10, is folded over. Was it folded over when you saw it the first time, folded over to the end?
Mr. FRAZIER - I will say I am not sure about that, whether it was folded over or not, because, like I say, I didn't pay that much attention to it.


Mr. BALL - But are you sure that his hand was at the end of the package or at the side of the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Like I said, I remember I didn't look at the package very much, paying much attention, but when I did look at it he did have his hands on the package like that.


Mr. BALL - Mr. Frazier, we have here this Exhibit No. 364 which is a sack and in that we have put a dismantled gun. Don't pay any attention to that. Will you stand up here and put this under your arm and then take a hold of it at the side?
Now, is that anywhere near similar to the way that Oswald carried the package?
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, you know, like I said now, I said I didn't pay much attention--



JohnM

On Day 1 Frazier told them exactly what kind of bag he had seen and that it wasn't the one they had found at the TSBD.

Only months later, when he testified, did Frazier say that he had not been paying much attention.... He was probably just sick and tired of all those idiots that did not want to believe him simply because what he said did not fit their pathetic narrative

The fact remains that from day 1 until this day Frazier has never changed his story that the TSBD was not the one he had seen!