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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #184 on: September 03, 2018, 03:46:49 PM »
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Convincing the public Oswald was the assassin before all the evidence was even collected, let alone investigated?

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"...On November 23,1963, J. Edgar Hoover forwarded the results of the FBI's preliminary investigation to him.(LBJ) This report detailed the evidence that indicated LHO's guilt. On November 24, 1963, Hoover telephoned President Johnson aide Walter Jenkins and stated:

"The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin..."


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11/23/63

J. Edgar Hoover: I just wanted to let you know of a development which I think is very important in connection with this case - this man in Dallas (Lee Harvey Oswald). We, of course, charged him with the murder of the President. The evidence that they have at the present time is not very, very strong. We have just discovered the place where the gun was purchased and the shipment of the gun from Chicago to Dallas, to a post office box in Dallas, to a man - no, to a woman by the name of "A. Hidell."... We
had it flown up last night, and our laboratory here is making an examination of it.

Lyndon B. Johnson: Yes, I told the Secret Service to see that that got taken care of.

J. Edgar Hoover: That's right. We have the gun and we have the bullet. There was only one full bullet that was found. That was on the stretcher that the President was on. It apparently had fallen out when they massaged his heart, and we have that one. We have what we call slivers, which are not very valuable in the identification. As soon as we finish the testing of the gun for fingerprints ... we will then be able to test the one bullet we have with the gun. But the important thing is that this gun was bought in Chicago on a money order. Cost twenty-one dollars, and it seems almost impossible to think that for twenty-one dollars you could kill the President of the United States.


11/23/63

Lyndon B. Johnson: Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet embassy in Mexico in September?

J. Edgar Hoover: No, that's one angle that's very confusing, for this reason - we have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald's name. That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man's voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there. We do have a copy of a letter which was written by Oswald to the Soviet embassy here in Washington, inquiring as well as complaining about the harassment of his wife and the questioning of his wife by the FBI. Now, of course, that letter information - we process all mail that goes to the Soviet embassy. It's a very secret operation.
No mail is delivered to the embassy without being examined and opened by us, so that we know what they receive... The case, as it stands now, isn't strong enough to be able to get a conviction... Now if we can identify this man who was at the... Soviet embassy in Mexico City... This man Oswald has still denied everything. He doesn't know anything about anything, but the gun thing, of course, is a definite trend.




Getting Marina to cooperate by letting her stay in the US.

11/29/63

Lyndon B. Johnson: That there is no connection between he and Ruby that you can detect now. And whether he was connected with the Cuban operation with money, you're trying to...

J. Edgar Hoover: That's what we're trying to nail down now, because he was strongly pro-Castro, he was strongly anti-American, and he had been in correspondence, which we have, with the Soviet embassy here in Washington and with the American Civil Liberties Union and with this Committee for Fair Play to Cuba... None of those letters, however, dealt with any indication of violence or contemplated assassination. They were dealing with the matter of a visa for his wife to go back to Russia. Now there is one angle to this thing that I'm hopeful to get some word on today. This woman, his wife, had been very hostile. She would not cooperate, speaks... Russian only. She did say to us yesterday down there that if we could give her assurance that she would be allowed to remain in this country, she might cooperate. I told our agents down there to give her that assurance... and I sent a Russian-speaking agent into Dallas last night to interview her.... Whether she knows anything or talks anything, I, of course, don't know and won't know till -

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #185 on: September 03, 2018, 04:42:59 PM »
This is absolutely not true.

Are you seriously claiming that Johnny Brewer wasn't present inside the theater when Oswald was apprehended?

This is what LNers do. They make it about you instead of the evidence. They can't refute that so they build straw men instead.

I am making NO claim. The evidence is. If you either knew it or didn't ignore it then you would know this.

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #186 on: September 03, 2018, 04:49:04 PM »
No offence but that's a real Kook's reply. If I choose to smoke then I know the risks but if i go to the cinema, a nightclub, an outdoor concert, a videogame competition or even a church then I expect to be safe, how can some maniac on the loose possibly be my fault?

Well of course, violence breeds violence.

The Washington Post newspaper counted 963 fatalities in 2016. A public interest group, Fatal Encounters, estimated 1,500 people were shot by police each year from 2013 to 2015.

Let's take a conservative approach and agree the number to be 1,200 deaths per year. The US has a population of about 326 million.

In Australia, on average, around six to eight people are killed by police firearms each year. We have a population of 24 million.

This means that a civilian is about 12 times more likely to be shot and killed by a police firearm in the US than by a police firearm in Australia.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-21/justine-damond-mohamed-noor-police-officer-charges/9573122

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What an ignorant response, no offense, as second hand and third hand smoke kills people. Don't you know this?

All those places have restrictions against guns. Most people are more likely to die in an automobile accident than from a shooting. The government cannot protect you from crazy people so why should we lose all our rights as if they could?

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #187 on: September 03, 2018, 04:57:12 PM »
Confirmation that he does think the Davis sisters were part of the small conspiracy.

I read that Jack Ruby had Virginia Davis' telephone number. It was found among his possessions after he killed LHO.

It was claimed that it belonged to Leona Miller, but it was actually listed to Virginia Davis in Oak Cliff. What a small world we see in the JFK assassination case.

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #188 on: September 04, 2018, 02:58:23 AM »
You read??  You expect people who know your reputation for lying to believe ?you read?? Provide a citation. 

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #188 on: September 04, 2018, 02:58:23 AM »


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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #189 on: September 04, 2018, 03:39:35 AM »
What an ignorant response, no offense, as second hand and third hand smoke kills people. Don't you know this?

All those places have restrictions against guns. Most people are more likely to die in an automobile accident than from a shooting. The government cannot protect you from crazy people so why should we lose all our rights as if they could?

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What an ignorant response, no offense, as second hand and third hand smoke kills people. Don't you know this?

That's why smoking is banned in nightclubs, shopping malls, schools, airports, restaurants, workplaces, pubs, football stadiums, ice hockey rinks, basketball courts, Lady tupperware parties, in cars with children, doctors waiting rooms, cafeterias, buses, planes, trains and most populated public places and if I see someone smoking it's quite easy for me to move away, but try and move away from a bullet.
Btw I don't smoke cigarettes and I think it's a filthy disgusting habit but I feel it's their right to smoke as long as they are responsible yet with the laws as they are, they have little choice.

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All those places have restrictions against guns.

The figures speak for themselves.

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Most people are more likely to die in an automobile accident than from a shooting.

Another stupid argument. Plenty of people die in all sorts of accidents, that's why they're called accidents! DUH! And btw how many USA mass shootings are attributable to an accident?

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The government cannot protect you from crazy people so why should we lose all our rights as if they could?

That guy who killed all those concert goers in Vegas would have killed nobody with a gun if he didn't have access to a gun, it's so simple why can't you understand?

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #190 on: September 04, 2018, 03:06:59 PM »
That's why smoking is banned in nightclubs, shopping malls, schools, airports, restaurants, workplaces, pubs, football stadiums, ice hockey rinks, basketball courts, Lady tupperware parties, in cars with children, doctors waiting rooms, cafeterias, buses, planes, trains and most populated public places and if I see someone smoking it's quite easy for me to move away, but try and move away from a bullet.
Btw I don't smoke cigarettes and I think it's a filthy disgusting habit but I feel it's their right to smoke as long as they are responsible yet with the laws as they are, they have little choice.

The figures speak for themselves.

Another stupid argument. Plenty of people die in all sorts of accidents, that's why they're called accidents! DUH! And btw how many USA mass shootings are attributable to an accident?

That guy who killed all those concert goers in Vegas would have killed nobody with a gun if he didn't have access to a gun, it's so simple why can't you understand?

JohnM

Mass shootings are rare. 99.999% of Americans shouldn't suffer because of them.

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #191 on: September 04, 2018, 04:41:12 PM »
Mass shootings are rare. 99.999% of Americans shouldn't suffer because of them.

?Suffer?  :D

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Re: Did LHO know how to drive? Does it matter?
« Reply #191 on: September 04, 2018, 04:41:12 PM »