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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2021, 04:12:34 AM »
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I reckon that Oswald would have to stand to aim at JFK while JFK was near the signals for the first shot which ricocheted off the say 2 inch pipe arm, some fragments hitting JFK on the back of the head (as shown in Xrays), the copper & larger fragments hitting the road. And that downwards angle would have been  say 60ft vertical & more than 60ft horizontal, no problems re the open window.

A man standing and trying to fire a rifle down onto Elm street from that window would have fired into the cement ledge beneath the window.

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Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2021, 04:19:44 AM »
A man standing and trying to fire a rifle down onto Elm street from that window would have fired into the cement ledge beneath the window.
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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2021, 04:23:22 AM »
A few years ago I studied screenshots of the Bronson film (the long shot where a guy is falling backwards with a long thin object pointing up. But it was suggested to me that the line was just a artifact or something. I had blown it up somewhat and it was quite grainy. I have files of those screenshots somewhere.

But that close with an AR-15? He would have surely really lost (his) face.




The "AR-15" is the back of Bennet's head.
[images lifted from patspeer.com] - "Debunking Donahue"

If you look at the Bronson film using certain "classified" filters you can see a cuckoo holding an AK-47 spring out of Ernie Brandt's hat.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2021, 04:24:23 AM by Dan O'meara »

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Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2021, 04:58:20 AM »



The "AR-15" is the back of Bennet's head.
[images lifted from patspeer.com] - "Debunking Donahue"

If you look at the Bronson film using certain "classified" filters you can see a cuckoo holding an AK-47 spring out of Ernie Brandt's hat.
No Hickey is higher (sitting on some cases) & back further (having just fallen backwards due to QM acceleration probly). The lower figure is Bennett leaning forward. This is at Z319 which is 6 or 7 frames after Z313 or Z312 at which time Hickey was half standing & fired due to jerk of braking or acceleration.  6 frames is 1/3rd of a second, enuff time to fall back to where he is at Z319.  Thanku linesmen&women thank u ballboysngirls.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2021, 03:44:01 PM »



The "AR-15" is the back of Bennet's head.
[images lifted from patspeer.com] - "Debunking Donahue"

If you look at the Bronson film using certain "classified" filters you can see a cuckoo holding an AK-47 spring out of Ernie Brandt's hat.

I can't vouch for your images. I remember mine with a definite line pointing skywards, and somewhat less blurry. And do tell us what a 'classified filter' might be.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #45 on: February 16, 2021, 08:09:40 PM »
The "straight line" is apparently a pole.

This is the frame taken from the Bronson film at the time of the headshot. Hickey (beneath the arrow in the bottom image) appears (to me) to be still sitting down.

« Last Edit: February 16, 2021, 08:10:14 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2021, 08:40:09 PM »
The "straight line" is apparently a pole.

This is the frame taken from the Bronson film at the time of the headshot. Hickey (beneath the arrow in the bottom image) appears (to me) to be still sitting down.



I can't vouch for your images. In mine, the line that might be a rifle was cut off at about the length of a rifle, not full vertical but closer to vertical than horizontal. And that's the impression I had or I wouldn't have pursued this in the first place.
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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
« Reply #47 on: February 16, 2021, 09:25:44 PM »
I can't vouch for your images. In mine, the line that might be a rifle was cut off at about the length of a rifle, not full vertical but closer to vertical than horizontal. And that's the impression I had or I wouldn't have pursued this in the first place.
Okay, you're looking at a different line. One that appears to be immediately behind him, I think? I was thinking of the longer line to the left.

In any case, Hickey said he picked the rifle up from the floor.

From his account: "At the end of the last report I reached to the bottom of the car and picked up the AR 15 rifle, cocked and loaded it, and turned to the rear. At this point the cars were passing under the over-pass and as a result we had left the scene of the shooting. I kept the AR 15 rifle ready as we proceeded at a high rate of speed to the hospital."

Here he is with it raised (but not turned to the rear at all) as they leave the underpass:


Whatever the case it looks to me that he's not standing up at the time of the head shot.

« Last Edit: February 16, 2021, 09:34:13 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

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Re: Did Hickey fire the fatal shot?
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