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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #384 on: September 28, 2018, 01:35:03 AM »
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No one would be able to use a wrench.

Someone should use a wrench on your head.....and tighten up the loose screws.  ( Or a monkey wrench for tightening your nuts )



The heads of bolts, ( and the nuts) are measured ACROSS the flats of the head of the bolt.....IOW a  bolt with a 3/4" head is designed so that the 3/4 inch wrench fits the flats of the bolt head.

But ....What the hell do wrenches have to do with the diameter of a carcano barrel??



But since you broached the subject...If you were to use the open end of the 11/16" (.687")  wrench it would fit loosely around the carcano barrel .....If you use a metric open end wrench you'll find that the 16mm wrench will fit nicely around the barrel.  And if you were to use that same 16mm wrench around a AA penlight battery you'll find that the battery is nearly the same size as the barrel of a carcano at the foregrip. 
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #385 on: September 28, 2018, 02:41:31 AM »
Someone should use a wrench on your head.....and tighten up the loose screws.  ( Or a monkey wrench for tightening your nuts )



The heads of bolts, ( and the nuts) are measured ACROSS the flats of the head of the bolt.....IOW a  bolt with a 3/4" head is designed so that the 3/4 inch wrench fits the flats of the bolt head.

But ....What the hell do wrenches have to do with the diameter of a carcano barrel??



But since you broached the subject...If you were to use the open end of the 11/16" (.687")  wrench it would fit loosely around the carcano barrel .....If you use a metric open end wrench you'll find that the 16mm wrench will fit nicely around the barrel.  And if you were to use that same 16mm wrench around a AA penlight battery you'll find that the battery is nearly the same size as the barrel of a carcano at the foregrip.

Hey Walt you keep making this claim, how about you get a piece of Carcano sized pipe, cover it in ink, grab it then take a photo of your hand and show us how little or how much contact you make, K?

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #386 on: September 28, 2018, 03:22:54 AM »
Robert Frazier gave his expert opinion and the defence has an equal responsibility to have the expert examine the evidence and render their opinion, the evidence still exists what are you waiting for?

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Why wasn't this done in 1964?

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #387 on: September 28, 2018, 03:37:57 AM »
Robert Frazier identified them by lining up the marks "in his mind".

Mr. MCDONALD. And you took the fragment, is it labeled CE-567, and microscopically compared it with the test-fired bullet from the FBI that was fired out of 139?
Mr. NEWQUIST. That is correct.
Mr. McDONALD. And what was the result of your examination?
Mr. NEWQUIST. From mine and the panel's comparison, of these two exhibits, it is our opinion, they had been fired from the same firearm.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/firearm.htm

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #388 on: September 28, 2018, 03:48:21 AM »
Mr. MCDONALD. And you took the fragment, is it labeled CE-567, and microscopically compared it with the test-fired bullet from the FBI that was fired out of 139?
Mr. NEWQUIST. That is correct.
Mr. McDONALD. And what was the result of your examination?
Mr. NEWQUIST. From mine and the panel's comparison, of these two exhibits, it is our opinion, they had been fired from the same firearm.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/firearm.htm

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But still no expert opinion from someone representing LHO's interests. 🤔

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #389 on: September 28, 2018, 04:46:39 AM »
Hey Walt you keep making this claim, how about you get a piece of Carcano sized pipe, cover it in ink, grab it then take a photo of your hand and show us how little or how much contact you make, K?

JohnM

Sounds like a good way for you to LEARN....that an adult male could not wrap his palm around a rifle barrel that is the diameter of a AA pen Light battery, and deposit an identifiable print.....    However, You have reversed the situation....the idea would to be ink the palm and grab a AA pen light battery or any cylinder that is close to 16 mm in diameter.....and see how much of a identifiable print you would deposit on that cylinder.....

Since I own many Carcanos I can affirm the fact that an identifiable palm print could not be deposited on the barrel...

If you've got the guts...post a good copy of CE 639 that shows the so called "palm Print" then we'll discuss the idea with the print right there ......
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #390 on: September 28, 2018, 04:50:48 AM »
Sounds like a good way for you to LEARN....that an adult male could not wrap his palm around a rifle barrel that is the diameter of a AA pen Light battery, and deposit an identifiable print.....    However, You have reversed the situation....the idea would to be ink the palm and grab a AA pen light battery or any cylinder that is close to 16 mm in diameter.....and see how much of a identifiable print you would deposit on that cylinder.....

Since I own many Carcanos I can affirm the fact that an identifiable palm print could not be deposited on the barrel...

Yeah one way or another all roads lead to Rome, you have an actual Carcano, cool, how about you do your experiment and present your results?

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #391 on: September 28, 2018, 05:00:19 AM »
But still no expert opinion from someone representing LHO's interests. 🤔

The HSCA was a neutral investigation who erroneously discovered and presented evidence of a conspiracy, had their firearms panel examine the same fragments as Frazier and they all agreed that the same fragments were fired from Oswald's rifle. The evidence still exists and these experts would be aware that there reputation was on the line because at any time in the future anyone good or evil could examine this evidence, so what could all these men from across two decades be possibly hiding and why?

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
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