My theory documented for the last time. May the Files be with me.

[Tom Scully]

Lee, I cannot find any of your Plumlee related claims in this four page, 1976 report. Can you present any verifiable
support of assumptions you post related to Plumlee claims, independent of Plumlee?

First page:
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&search=1968#relPageId=14&tab=page
Fourth Page:
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&relPageId=17&search=1968

[Lee Wotton]

Tom I posted a link that quotes Plumlee's final unadulterated and corrected statement of the events of that day.  It is on a site that the Mary Ferrell site links to.

[Lee Wotton]

Hey, Lee.  Thanks for responding to this thread.  Yes ... if the version of events took place
as I suggest the truth would NOT have been divulged.  Here again let's look at the Transcripts
and see how just these two Relays could have added up.

Near 12:45 p.m. we have 67's relay ...
Did they head south?  To which the Dispatcher answers - Yes.

Just around 1 p.m. we have the following ...
Secret Service -- outer perimeter -- they are being brought back.

Seriously, I didn't pull these relays out of my ass-assination imagination.
They are there in the first completed documentation of the Radio Relays as done
by Warner by December, 1963 and I've shown how they have changed over the years.
Let alone, that the above quote re the SS was on a misplaced page before - a transfer
of persons to the downtown jail.

Possibility?  Some, or at least one, SS agent from Love Field - the - outer perimeter --
assisted the police in capturing suspects in a vehicle of some sort.  And - Yes - as you stated
the SS would have lied about staying at Love Field if what I'm suggesting did take place. 

As, for other possibilities, as proposed by, Steve and Tom, the switching of Channels,
a/o 30's SS station wagon going to the Sheraton a/o 158 being on the other side of town
bringing persons not connected with the assassination to the downtown jail, all innocently
lining up during the same fifteen minutes.  I don't know.

 

Dan, it may help to sketch or mark on a map the key areas of Love Field, Parkland, DP, Redbird, Sheraton etc and starting positions of the people involved to look at the scenarios based on the transcriptions.  I will take a look.

Can you explain the 30's station waggon to me?  Obviously this is different from the station Roger Craig witnessed leaving DP?

[Lee Wotton]

Lee, I cannot find any of your Plumlee related claims in this four page, 1976 report. Can you present any verifiable
support of assumptions you post related to Plumlee claims, independent of Plumlee?

First page:
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&search=1968#relPageId=14&tab=page
Fourth Page:
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&relPageId=17&search=1968

Tom, that says he last saw Rosselli in 1963 and not again until 1968

[Dan DAlimonte]

Dan, it may help to sketch or mark on a map the key areas of Love Field, Parkland, DP, Redbird, Sheraton etc and starting positions of the people involved to look at the scenarios based on the transcriptions.  I will take a look.

Can you explain the 30's station waggon to me?  Obviously this is different from the station Roger Craig witnessed leaving DP?

Lee.  Any help providing a map to the key positions would be greatly appreciated.
As for 30's station wagon ... this was brought up by Tom a few pages back.
From what I gather a) there was an SS command center at the Sheraton and b)
the SS had their own station wagon which, so far, I still can't find out if it was
driven by a DPD officer or driven by an SS agent himself.  Anyway, it was pointed out
to me that the station wagon which I cited in the Transcript page may NOT have been
Craig's station wagon, if you will, but the 30's station wagon simply going downtown
to the command center and needing a 202 clearance. 

As this developed, Steve pointed out that SS Warner (the same Warner who compiled
the Radio Transcripts I was using) was assigned to Love Field to help secure the area
with the SS agents who stayed behind.  Could he have driven the 30's station wagon
for his assignment at Love Field and then - after - still have encountered Craig's station wagon
at Redbird. ...  Anyway, the point counterpoint aspect to all this is only a few pages back from this one.   
It would be easier if you read it than me rehashing to you. 

[Tom Scully]

Lee, I cannot find any of your Plumlee related claims in this four page, 1976 report. Can you present any verifiable
support of assumptions you post related to Plumlee claims, independent of Plumlee?

First page:
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&search=1968#relPageId=14&tab=page
Fourth Page:
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&relPageId=17&search=1968

Tom, that says he last saw Rosselli in 1963 and not again until 1968

Yup....Plumlee in 1976 only admits to being in Rosselli's presence six months
before the JFK Assassination and not again until 1968 when he told Rosselli
he (Plumlee) did not remember him. Page 4 of the 1976 document is displayed
above, and I am displaying page 3, BELOW, to support that a troubling contradiction exists, vs. Plumlee's later claim of flying Rosselli to Garland in November, 1963.
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&relPageId=16&search=1968


Lee, I am supporting why it is unreasonable to accept Plumlee's later
extraordinary claims....they were presented later, contradict his earlier
assertions, and so far, you've presented no independent supporting evidence
validating the later claims of Plumlee you have described and endorsed in
recent posts in this thread.

Tom I posted a link that quotes Plumlee's final unadulterated and corrected statement of the events of that day.  It is on a site that the Mary Ferrell site links to.

You apparently take Plumlee at his more recent word
because? (You haven't written how you justify believing Plumlee extraordinary claims.)

BTW, "mixed", since Plumlee more recent, extraordinary claims contradict
his earlier claims about when and where he last was in Rosselli's presence,
seems a more reasonable description than:

un?a?dul?ter?at?ed
ˌ
adjective
adjective: unadulterated
not mixed or diluted with any different or extra elements; complete and absolute.
"pure, unadulterated jealousy" synonyms:
pure, unalloyed, unsullied, untainted, virgin, untouched;

[Lee Wotton]

Yup....Plumlee in 1976 only admits to being in Rosselli's presence six months
before the JFK Assassination and not again until 1968 when he told Rosselli
he (Plumlee) did not remember him. Page 4 of the 1976 document is displayed
above, and I am displaying page 3, BELOW, to support that a troubling contradiction exists, vs. Plumlee's later claim of flying Rosselli to Garland in November, 1963.
https://maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=70675&relPageId=16&search=1968


Lee, I am supporting why it is unreasonable to accept Plumlee's later
extraordinary claims....they were presented later, contradict his earlier
assertions, and so far, you've presented no independent supporting evidence
validating the later claims of Plumlee you have described and endorsed in
recent posts in this thread.
You apparently take Plumlee at his more recent word
because? (You haven't written how you justify believing Plumlee extraordinary claims.)

BTW, "mixed", since Plumlee more recent, extraordinary claims contradict
his earlier claims about when and where he last was in Rosselli's presence,
seems a more reasonable description than:

Tom, the link I posted was Plumlee's account and in the introduction he explains that this should supersede any previous accounts attributed to him due to inaccuracies misquotes etc.  We know that a lot of people's testimony has been, ignored, altered and spun in this story.  There are also a lot of citations at the end f the account.

Personally I can't blame him rom saying he didn't recognise Rosselli in 1968 as if he had admitted that he did it would not have been good for his life expectancy.  Sounds like Roselli was testing him to me.

[Lee Wotton]

Released file regarding the Sheraton Hotel in Dallas  Note how much is missing.

http://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32106450.pdf