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Offline Howard Gee

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2018, 05:54:47 PM »
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No unsolved mysteries in the Kennedy assassination matter because Oswald is Guilty.

If you really believe that, you wouldn?t be curious

Trust me, I believe it.

It's my curiousity that has lead me to examine the case as thoroughly as possible.

Over the years I've read and watched everything I could regarding the assassination.

I started out believing there was a conspiracy.

Eventually, I came to my senses.

It's been a long journey.

I was 7 yrs old when the assassination happened.

I can remember getting dismissed from school and crying to my mother that I didn't want the president to be dead. I remember sitting with my friend and discussing what should be done to the assassin. My 7 year old answer was he should be put under a rocket ship and incinerated.

I remember watching my dad's reaction to Saint Patsy getting shot on national TV.

The newspapers of 11/22/63 were saved.

The saying 'everyone remembers where they were when JFK was killed' is definitely true in my case, and I've always been fascinated by the case.

At first, authors like Mark Lane and Rush to Judegement seemed pretty convincing to me.

Hidden assassins on the grassy knoll, dead witnesses, and a massive cover-up seemed reasonable; The SBT and a lone shooter didn't.

I couldn't wait to see the Groden's Zap film on Geraldo's show.

Over the years I've come to realize Mark Lane was a snakeoil salesman and Groden is a nut. Try reading High Treason if you doubt that.

Lifton is the biggest crackpot there is. Try reading Best Evidence and not laughing your ass off. 

About the only conspiracy author I've read and have any respect for is Anthony Summers. At least he doesn't ridiculously advocate that Saint Patsy was innocent and he does lay out a compelling case Saint Patsy might have been a 'spook' asset.

The HSCA acoustical findings seemed pretty solid, but that's been proven to be garbage too. Thank you forum member Steve Barber.

Frontal entry throat shot ? Easily dispelled by the use of common sense.

The more you think about it, based on the Z film and forensics, the SBT is the only way it could have happened and should be called the Single Bullet Fact.

Give me the work of Dale Myers and especially Vince Bugliosi over all the conspiracy theorists, any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Forum member David Von Pein is darned good too.

Are there unknowns about the assassination despite it being the most exhaustively studied and investigated murder in history ? Yes.

But I'm quite comfortable telling you that Saint Patsy was JFK's and Tippit's murderer beyond any reasonable doubt and that there's no credible evidence of a conspiracy, either foreign or domestic.

I SAID IT  I MEANT IT  I'M HERE TO REPRESENT IT
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2018, 06:04:09 PM »
In the grand context of things it really doesn't matter.

Saint Patsy is guity as hell.

Just curious whether Saint Patsy was using a different alias besides Hidell.

The FBI determined that he used the name H.O. Lee when he purchased a bus ticket back from Mexico City.

And his visa to Mexico, the one he used to go there and visit the Cuban and Soviet consulates, shows the name Lee, Harvey Oswald - or H.O. Lee on it. Although that appears to be a typographical mistake since he signed it Lee Harvey Oswald and not Harvey Oswald Lee.

The key point in this, for me, is why in the hell is this guying using fake names? What world does he think he's living in? Marina said, "Lee was sick...he didn't know who he was."


Offline Jon Banks

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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2018, 06:13:55 PM »
The FBI determined that he used the name H.O. Lee when he purchased a bus ticket back from Mexico City.

And his visa to Mexico, the one he used to go there and visit the Cuban and Soviet consulates, shows the name Lee, Harvey Oswald - or H.O. Lee on it. Although that appears to be a typographical mistake since he signed it Lee Harvey Oswald and not Harvey Oswald Lee.

The key point in this, for me, is why in the hell is this guying using fake names? What world does he think he's living in? Marina said, "Lee was sick...he didn't know who he was."



Some of the things Oswald did were well known espionage techniques.

When and where did he learn Spycraft?

It?s entirely possible that he pretended to be a spy in his spare time. I?m not dismissing it. It?s equally possible that Oswald was actually a spy.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2018, 06:53:50 PM »
Oswald wasn't big on small talk.  He likely thought himself more intelligent than the masses who he had a certain amount of contempt.  It's a leitmotif of his personality when you read the accounts of people who dealt with him.  Didn't say much or engage much with others.  Sometimes wouldn't even acknowledge a greeting.

And yet his not being a social butterfly after the motorcade somehow constitutes evidence of his guilt.  Go figure.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2018, 06:54:51 PM »
Until someone provides a reasonable explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor, the basic fact of his guilt is established.

"His rifle".  LOL.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2018, 07:02:21 PM »
Since the Rhetoric Not Evidence Squad has taken to referring to Oswald as "Saint", it's only fair that the moniker also be bequeathed on people such as

Saint McDonald
Saint Day
Saint Bugliosi
Saint Brennan
Saint Hill
Saint Myers

Because, after all, why talk about facts and evidence when you can just give somebody a cute nickname instead?

Offline Howard Gee

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2018, 07:18:19 PM »
And yet his not being a social butterfly after the motorcade somehow constitutes evidence of his guilt.  Go figure.

You're right.

The butterfly flapped his unsocial widdle wings just as fast as he could and flew out of the depoitory, no interest whatsoever in what just happened -- and because his widdle wings got tired hopped on a bus and a taxi bcz he was in a huge rush to get to the movies where he could watch Steve McQueen in complete seclusion.

Unfortunately, bcz the butterfly looked funny he was beaten and arrested.

Got it.

Offline Rob Caprio

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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2018, 07:19:12 PM »
Saint Patsy tells Fritz he's renting a room at 1026 Beckley.

Fritz orders some men to go search Saint Patsy's room.

The cops arrive and tell Earlene Roberts and Mrs. Johnson they're looking for Lee Harvey Oswald's room.

Johnson and Roberts tell the officers there is no such boarder.

It's not until Saint Patsy's mug is shown on TV that they realize the boarder that registered as O. H. LEE is actually Lee Harvey Oswald, the man the whose room the cops want to search.

Upon seeing Saint Patsy on TV they exclaim 'There's O.H. LEE, no wonder we didn't know who Lee Oswald was', and direct the cops to his room.

Or so the story goes.

Questions: At some point in time Oswald must have had some conversation, no matter how perfunctory, with Johnson, Roberts and the other boarders.

Did they not know his first name ?

Was he just known to them as Mr. Lee ?

Is there testimony regarding this question ?

The story about Roberts and Johnson not knowing O H LEE was actually Lee Oswald until they saw him on on TV rings true but being unaware of his real first name doesn't.

Supposedly Fritz asked Saint Patsy why Johnson knew him as O. H. LEE, and Oswald responded that Johnson made a mistake.

Your first two sentences are a false representation of the events. It's easy to claim someone is guilty when the evidence is ignored or misrepresented.

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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2018, 07:19:12 PM »