Roger Craig

[Paul J Cummings]

Again why did it take until the NEXT DAY to identify by the FBI? Just answer the question that I've posed numerous times to you. If you're construing me not being calm and ranting that's on you. From Spartacus "7.65 Mauser. Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone found the rifle following the movement of book boxes by Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney and called Deputy Constable Seymour Weitzman to witness his discovery. Another Deputy Sheriff, Roger Craig, was thereabouts and he saw the gun and heard the conversations of the others. The officers had no doubts about their identification and affidavits were drawn up by Boone and Weitzman, who described the weapon in detail, noting the colour of the sling and the scope. Police Captain Will Fritz was also present at the scene and he, also, is claimed to have agreed that the rifle was a 7.65 Mauser. District Attorney Henry M. Wade, in a television interview, referred to the sixth-floor discovery and quoted the weapon as a Mauser, a statement picked up by the press and reported widely. Following the finding of the gun, however, it was collected by Lieutenant. C. Day and taken to Police Headquarters, where it was logged as a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano, an Italian carbine, bearing the serial number C2766. Mannlicher-Carcano Italian carbine No. C2766, it was claimed, belonged to Lee Harvey Oswald." So Lt. Day decided he knew more than the others.

Calm down and you might learn something, in addition to the IDENTIFYING photographs while in the halls of Justice, Lt Day is filmed saying the rifle was "6.5, apparently made in Italy, in 1940" What more do you want and where does your ranting lead?

And also see the video below, which is the complete 2013 CNN documentary that Michael Giampaolo talked about earlier (entitled "The Assassination Of President Kennedy"). And included in that program (at 20:10) is, indeed, the voice of Lieutenant J.C. Day uttering these words --- "6.5, apparently made in Italy, in 1940":
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-591.html

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QMBH940EMjv3zWnouwEdVQ2aGcgWMwn6/view

Thanks to DVP!

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Again why did it take until the NEXT DAY to identify by the FBI? Just answer the question that I've posed numerous times to you. If you're construing me not being calm and ranting that's on you.

 

Mr. BELIN. At what time, if you know, did you release the rifle to the FBI?
Mr. DAY. 11:45 p.m. the rifle was released or picked up by them and taken from the office.
Mr. BELIN. Was that on November 22?
Mr. DAY. November 22, 1963.

JohnM

[Paul J Cummings]

You're still not answering the question. You have officers identifying with affidavits and yet Lt. Day decides it's not a Mauser. The most important piece of evidence tying Oswald takes the next day to identify. Not enough FBI people in Dallas so they sent it to Washington. Classic.

Mr. BELIN. At what time, if you know, did you release the rifle to the FBI?
Mr. DAY. 11:45 p.m. the rifle was released or picked up by them and taken from the office.
Mr. BELIN. Was that on November 22?
Mr. DAY. November 22, 1963.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

You're still not answering the question. You have officers identifying with affidavits and yet Lt. Day decides it's not a Mauser. The most important piece of evidence tying Oswald takes the next day to identify. Not enough FBI people in Dallas so they sent it to Washington. Classic.

You're still not answering the question.

Yes I did, you asked "why did it take until the NEXT DAY to identify by the FBI?" and I quoted LT Day saying that the FBI only received Oswald's rifle @11:45 PM,

You have officers identifying with affidavits and yet Lt. Day decides it's not a Mauser.

Sorry but the photographic evidence over rules any affidavit.
Btw it's just as easy to setup Oswald with a Mauser, why have two rifles?

The most important piece of evidence tying Oswald takes the next day to identify.

Pay attention, I posted a video from the 22nd where Lt Day said the rifle was Italian and 6.5.

Classic.

Yes, that's the word that comes to my mind.

JohnM

[Paul J Cummings]

Photographic evidence. Another classic take. Was Day there when it was found? What time did Lt. Day arrive in the TSBD?? Sorry but your take on photographic evidence is a lame and affidavits would rule in court over the photographic evidence. The alleged Snipers nest was already tainted by Fritz who picked up the bullets and threw them down. Does the photographic evidence show that? Does your photographic evidence displayed on the pictures you posted say Carcano? Why did it take so long to identify the rifle the one linked to Oswald. Given the time frame when taken out of the TSBD why so late in identifying the rifle. I guess the FBI must have looked for more important evidence.

Yes I did, you asked "why did it take until the NEXT DAY to identify by the FBI?" and I quoted LT Day saying that the FBI only received Oswald's rifle @11:45 PM,

Sorry but the photographic evidence over rules any affidavit.
Btw it's just as easy to setup Oswald with a Mauser, why have two rifles?

Pay attention, I posted a video from the 22nd where Lt Day said the rifle was Italian and 6.5.

Yes, that's the word that comes to my mind.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

“Oswald’s Italian Carcano”. LOL.

[Jack Nessan]

The Argentine national crest was ground off by the Argentine government before export. The Argentines had a law requiring the removal of national markings from arms before they could be sold. Almost any example of a model 91 you can find will have been put to the grinder.  I've never seen one that hasn't been scalped.

BTW, the Gun Control Act of 1968 requires that any firearm imported into the US has the weapon clearly and permanently marked with the caliber. The caliber stamp on the pictured example may mark it as such a "post-import" rifle. As a rule, those old military rifles didn't have any caliber markings, and didn't need them. The model 38 and 91/38  Carcanos are a rare exception to this, due to WWII breaking out at a very inconvenient time for the Italian army.

Never have seen an 1891 scrubbed, let alone so crudely, but way fonder of the 1909's than 1891's. An 1891 is considered an antique firearm with antique metallurgy for firing premodern gunpowder. Also, it seems like an odd thing to do when it still clearly states Mauser Modelo Agentine 1891 on the side of the receiver. Maybe it is just internet nonsense.

There was an estimated 125 million K98's manufactured by many countries. Most German manufactured K98's have the numbers 7.9 , 7.91, 7.1, or 7.2  stamped on the barrel  shank, where the barrel screws into the receiver, these numbers designate bore size or caliber. Also, most K98 type rifles have a disc on the stock that indicates the caliber.