Who was the "agent" patrolman Joe Smith encountered behind grassy knoll?

[Royell Storing]

This is a critically important question and I'm not seeing anyone here quoting Ed Hoffman's eyewitness testimony.  I don't have the time to research his descriptions of the activity he reported behind the fence and the fact that Hoffman was a deaf/mute made it very difficult to accurately communicate what he saw. But the gist of his story is that the assassin fired his shot from behind the picket fence, tossed the rifle to a man who disassembled the weapon. The assassin then straightened himself and began walking calmly toward the overpass, at which time he encountered Smith. In other words, Smith spoke to the real killer of President Kennedy immediately after the assassination and his false Secret Service credentials were legitimate enough to fool a trained police officer. Smith reported later that he felt very uneasy about this encounter since the man had dirty hands and he regretted letting him go. Here's hoping I accurately captured that encounter. Please correct where I erred...

     I'm more inclined to believe Hoffman: (1) describing what he saw inside the JFK Limo/JFK Head Wound as the Limo passed beneath him on the Stemmons Fwy On-Ramp vs (2) his Detailed Description of what went on behind the picket fence/Triple Underpass area. Just my opinion, but the extended distance from where Hoffman was standing to that picket fence area is just too great for the naked eye to capture all the details that Hoffman related.   

[Steve Logan]

     I'm more inclined to believe Hoffman: (1) describing what he saw inside the JFK Limo/JFK Head Wound as the Limo passed beneath him on the Stemmons Fwy On-Ramp vs (2) his Detailed Description of what went on behind the picket fence/Triple Underpass area. Just my opinion, but the extended distance from where Hoffman was standing to that picket fence area is just too great for the naked eye to capture all the details that Hoffman related.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/FreeWayman.htm

[Susan Wilde]

Royell, I will go Susan, one better.... a more timely reference attributed to DPD Officer Joe Marshall Smith that he evidently could not summon
from memory during his actual WC testimony, seven months later.:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10672#relPageId=42

Thank you, very much, Tom.  Outstanding.  I will search the  Dallas Morning News  articles also documented before and after 12-5-63 to read what is further also quoted/documented by the gun smoke smelling DPD Joe Marshall Smith.  (or maybe a researcher has already found the documented article(s)?)

[Ted Shields]

Its amazing no one saw a gunman, apart from Hoffman.

We have a couple of hundred people looking at one spot from all directions, in broad daylight.

How many gunmen were seen? Zero.

Zapruder, Sitzman and Hudson and others. Feet away, really close. Heard nothing, saw nothing. High powered rifle firing feet away from their heads. Didn't react. Amazing.

[Royell Storing]

Its amazing no one saw a gunman, apart from Hoffman.

We have a couple of hundred people looking at one spot from all directions, in broad daylight.

How many gunmen were seen? Zero.

Zapruder, Sitzman and Hudson and others. Feet away, really close. Heard nothing, saw nothing. High powered rifle firing feet away from their heads. Didn't react. Amazing.

   I agree that Zapruder and Sitzman Not hearing a shot fired in close proximity to them is Important. Just as Important is Sitzman telling Tink Thompson for his "Six Seconds In Dallas" Novel, that she saw JFK "HIT" in the side of the head, "Between the EYE and the EAR". Sitzman was Specific as to what she Witnessed from her High Ground viewing position. I believe Hudson's WC testimony is disjointed/confused.

[Jack Trojan]

Its amazing no one saw a gunman, apart from Hoffman.

We have a couple of hundred people looking at one spot from all directions, in broad daylight.

How many gunmen were seen? Zero.

Zapruder, Sitzman and Hudson and others. Feet away, really close. Heard nothing, saw nothing. High powered rifle firing feet away from their heads. Didn't react. Amazing.

First, you can throw out anything from the WCR, so we have no idea how many people might have seen or heard anything. The reason Zapruder and others didn't hear anything is because that's how a turkey shoot works. They obviously heard the kill shot at frame 313, which they assumed came from the direction of the TSBD, but they didn't hear any other shots. That's because a triangulated turkey shoot, fires simultaneous shots that are intended to sound like 1.

JFK was shot at from behind until he got to the Stemmons sign with his hands to his throat. If he wasn't dead by this point, umbrella man was to signal to the snipers to take their shots at the turkey shoot point where simultaneous shots sound like 1 shot coming from a single indeterminate source. This is why Greer slowed down the limo and almost stopped it at the turkey shoot point, which was actually marked off with white paint on the curb. Then everyone heard a single shot and what they thought was an echo.

The 2 shots that struck JFK were from the knoll and the overpass, back and to the left. The knoll shot was a frangible bullet that entered JFK's right temple and nearly blew his head off. The overpass shot entered at the right side of his hairline and blew out a fist-sized hole at the back of his head. The overpass shot struck JFK ~.1 secs sooner than the knoll shot.

Overpass shot.




Right temple blow out.

[Royell Storing]

First, you can throw out anything from the WCR, so we have no idea how many people might have seen or heard anything. The reason Zapruder and others didn't hear anything is because that's how a turkey shoot works. They obviously heard the kill shot at frame 313, which they assumed came from the direction of the TSBD, but they didn't hear any other shots. That's because a triangulated turkey shoot, fires simultaneous shots that are intended to sound like 1.

JFK was shot at from behind until he got to the Stemmons sign with his hands to his throat. If he wasn't dead by this point, umbrella man was to signal to the snipers to take their shots at the turkey shoot point where simultaneous shots sound like 1 shot coming from a single indeterminate source. This is why Greer slowed down the limo and almost stopped it at the turkey shoot point, which was actually marked off with white paint on the curb. Then everyone heard a single shot and what they thought was an echo.

The 2 shots that struck JFK were from the knoll and the overpass, back and to the left. The knoll shot was a frangible bullet that entered JFK's right temple and nearly blew his head off. The overpass shot entered at the right side of his hairline and blew out a fist-sized hole at the back of his head. The overpass shot struck JFK ~.1 secs sooner than the knoll shot.

Overpass shot.




Right temple blow out.

    You can believe what you want on the Zapruder Film regarding a possible JFK Limo STOP. The Original Nix Film was shot Facing the Grassy Knoll and would either corroborate or refute a JFK Limo STOP. The Original Nix Film somehow going MIA smells to high heaven.

[Ted Shields]

First, you can throw out anything from the WCR, so we have no idea how many people might have seen or heard anything. The reason Zapruder and others didn't hear anything is because that's how a turkey shoot works. They obviously heard the kill shot at frame 313, which they assumed came from the direction of the TSBD, but they didn't hear any other shots. That's because a triangulated turkey shoot, fires simultaneous shots that are intended to sound like 1.

JFK was shot at from behind until he got to the Stemmons sign with his hands to his throat. If he wasn't dead by this point, umbrella man was to signal to the snipers to take their shots at the turkey shoot point where simultaneous shots sound like 1 shot coming from a single indeterminate source. This is why Greer slowed down the limo and almost stopped it at the turkey shoot point, which was actually marked off with white paint on the curb. Then everyone heard a single shot and what they thought was an echo.

The 2 shots that struck JFK were from the knoll and the overpass, back and to the left. The knoll shot was a frangible bullet that entered JFK's right temple and nearly blew his head off. The overpass shot entered at the right side of his hairline and blew out a fist-sized hole at the back of his head. The overpass shot struck JFK ~.1 secs sooner than the knoll shot.

Overpass shot.

Stop with the umbrella man stuff please.

Before his head went back and to the left it moved forward as the bullet hit. Explain that please.