Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket

[John Mytton]

OK, your shade thing didn't really work with Markham so now you're down to style?

As for the "positively identified", how does that work when she didn't recognize Oswald in the lineup?

OK, your shade thing didn't really work with Markham

Sorry Sorenson, I can't help it if you have no concept of science, the following graphic speaks for itself the same jacket looks different in different lighting conditions and gives a perfect explanation for some slight shading variations. 

As for the "positively identified", how does that work when she didn't recognize Oswald in the lineup?

You are so far off base it isn't funny, Markham positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald on the same afternoon and her misinterpretation of a single question months later has no bearing on her first day identification.

Mr. BALL. No. I wanted to know if that day when you were in there if you saw anyone in there--
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two.
Mr. BALL. What did you say when you saw number two?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Well, let me tell you. I said the second man, and they kept asking me which one, which one. I said, number two. When I said number two, I just got weak.
Mr. BALL. What about number two, what did you mean when you said number two?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two was the man I saw shoot the policeman.
Oswald was man number 2.



JohnM

 

[John Mytton]

Are you sure you want to add Burt to the list?

At the intersection of 10th and Patton Streets the man ran south on Patton Street. BURT said he ran to the intersection of 10th and Patton and when he was close enough to Patton Street to see to the south he saw the man running into an alley located between 10th and Jefferson Avenue on Patton Street. The man ran in the alley to the right and would be running west at this point.

Why not add Burt?
Burt saw Oswald run to the intersection of Tenth and Patton, then he lost sight of Oswald.



JohnM

[John Mytton]

Did I avoid Markham?

OK, your shade thing didn't really work with Markham so now you're down to style?

As for the "positively identified", how does that work when she didn't recognize Oswald in the lineup?

As soon as I come across CKs who think it's so important to focus on slight discrepancies in Oswald Jacket, it's immediately obvious that they have never studied any case outside JFK.

In the real world, clothing identification will always show slight discrepancies, in the following list these eyewitnesses all positively identified the same killer at Port Arthur and as per normal the jacket descriptions show variation.

Name of Witness: DUTTON Christian Names: James David       brown jacket
Name of Witness: KINGSTON Christian Names: Ian Gregory     green jacket
Name of Witness: BEEKMAN Christian Names: Michael Dean     ski type jacket, blue, orange and a few other colours on it
Name of Witness: WILLIAMS Christian Names: Colin Sydney    3/4 length jacket, dark in appearance
Name of Witness: WILLIAMS Christian Names: Iris Emelia     He had on a jacket of some description.
Name of Witness: SARGENT Christian Names: Michael Robert   blue jacket
Name of Witness: RIVIERE Christian Names: John Michael     ?High length? black jacket
Name of Witness: OLSON Christian Names: MARY LEE           I think was green
Name of Witness: LEVER Cristian Names: Coralee Helen       dark jacket
Name of Witness: NASH Christian Names: Carolyn Louise      khaki green jacket or parker type jacket
Name of Witness: BALASKO Christian Names: James            black jacket
Name of Witness: McKENNA Christian Names: Rebecca Kate     ski type jacket which was zipped all the way up. it was either navy, blue or grey.


JohnM

[John Mytton]

Picked up on him again. It was "the man".

Was it the same man?, prove it!



JohnM

[John Mytton]

You added Burt to the list, but now you question his observations?

Not at all, Burt saw the same man in the same light coloured jacket as everybody else and just like everybody else Burt saw Oswald head towards the corner of Tenth and Patton and the same jacketed man with a gun was positively identified running down Patton.



JohnM

[John Mytton]

Mrs. MARKHAM. Well, let me tell you. I said the second man, and they kept asking me which one, which one. I said, number two. When I said number two, I just got weak.

If she said number two why did they keep asking her which one, which one until she got weak?

She said the man was number two and they wanted to make sure, what's your problem with that? 

Btw when are you going to start refuting the mountain of evidence because your current tactic of insignificant cherry picking is going nowhere.



JohnM

[John Mytton]

Evidence of?

If you don't know the evidence, why are you bothering?



JohnM

[John Mytton]

You're referring to your list of witnesses seeing a light colored jacket or some other mountain?

You're referring to your list of witnesses seeing a light colored jacket

What planet are you on?, of course we are dealing with the mountain of Jacket evidence because you are in no way prepared to deal with the rest of the evidence, just take it slowly slowly.

or some other mountain?

Thanks for reinforcing that the mountain of jacket evidence is just one of the mountains of evidence that you need to climb.



JohnM