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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #200 on: January 23, 2018, 09:28:04 PM »
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There is no solid chain of custody for the white jacket found at the carpark. The initials on the jacket were place there at the police station (just like it happened with the revolver) and (if Westbrook's testimony is to be believed) clearly do not correspond with the officers who actually found that jacket and took it to the station.

Except for Earlene Roberts saying so (and she was half blind and paying more attention to the TV) there is no evidence that Oswald left the rooming house wearing a jacket at all and even Roberts rejected CE 162 because the jacket she claimed to have seen was darker.

That same afternoon, DPD officers took all Oswald's belongings from the rooming house and took them to the station. If the gray jacket (CE 162) was even in Oak Cliff (and not in Irving) this is how the gray jacket could have gotten to the police station.

The same goes for the search without a warrant at Ruth Paine's house. If the gray jacket was actually there, DPD officers could have brought in to the station from there.

"If"

"Could have"


You can call her half blind all you want, but the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #201 on: January 23, 2018, 09:31:12 PM »
Or, maybe you simply don't know the meaning of very basic words, like "match".  Are those fibers exclusive to one particular shirt?  Yes or no?

Anything to railroad your suspect with phony rhetoric.  Right?

You're being dumb.

The fibers were much more than "similar".  They, in fact, were a match.

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« Reply #202 on: January 23, 2018, 09:37:43 PM »
Ah, because it was found in the TSBD 10 days later. Now, please answer my question.

For the record, the blue jacket (Ce-163) was found in the Depository on December 16th, which is much more than just ten days later.

This jacket being found inside the Depository does not prove that Oswald left the building without a jacket, however.  You haven't really proven anything.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #203 on: January 23, 2018, 09:45:16 PM »
Bill Brown double standard alert;

"the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket."

Ergo; Earlene Roberts is to be believed.

Frazier said from day 1 until today over and over again that the bag found at the TSBD was not the bag he saw Oswald carry

Ergo: Frazier was mistaken

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #204 on: January 23, 2018, 10:17:29 PM »
You're being dumb.

The fibers were much more than "similar".  They, in fact, were a match.

As fun as it always is to play word games with you, why are you avoiding the question?

Are those fibers exclusive to one particular shirt?  A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #205 on: January 23, 2018, 10:21:45 PM »
Bill Brown double standard alert;

"the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket."

Ergo; Earlene Roberts is to be believed.

Frazier said from day 1 until today over and over again that the bag found at the TSBD was not the bag he saw Oswald carry

Ergo: Frazier was mistaken



Besides, so what if Oswald did leave the house zipping up A jacket?

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #206 on: January 23, 2018, 10:29:45 PM »
Bill Brown double standard alert;

"the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket."

Ergo; Earlene Roberts is to be believed.

Frazier said from day 1 until today over and over again that the bag found at the TSBD was not the bag he saw Oswald carry

Ergo: Frazier was mistaken

So, if Frazier was correct about the size of the package, so what?  Oswald's rifle was still found inside the building.  How he got the rifle in there means nothing.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #207 on: January 23, 2018, 10:31:29 PM »
You evidently do not understand the implications of cross contamination.

You need to show the transfer of fibers was not due to cross contamination or you have no case.

That is absolutely not true.  If you feel cross contamination may have occurred, then prove it.  Until then, the record states that the microscopic fibers found inside one of the sleeves of the jacket matched microscopic fibers from Oswald's arrest shirt.

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