Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket

[John Iacoletti]

Might can give you some additional information. I got an eye-ball witness to the get-away man. That suspect in this shooting is a white male, twenty-seven, five feet eleven, a hundred sixty-five, black wavy hair, fair complected, wearing a light grey Eisenhower-type jacket, dark trousers and a white shirt,

Which raises a couple of questions.  Why did they believe that a WHITE jacket they thought they found in a parking lot was his?  And why did they think Julia Postal's "ruddy looking, medium height, brown sport shirt" guy was the same guy?

[Zeon Mason]

Which raises a couple of questions.  Why did they believe that a WHITE jacket they thought they found in a parking lot was his?  And why did they think Julia Postal's "ruddy looking, medium height, brown sport shirt" guy was the same guy?

IDK, John.

It doesnt make sense if a lot witnesses have described jacket as some other shade and color than white, why a report goes out for suspect wearing a "white" jacket.

Then they report they have found the "white" jacket and that doesn't make much sense unless the unknown person who found and carried the jacket, was "blinded by bright sunlight" too

[John Iacoletti]

First you have to show LHO went to Tenth and Patton. Well?

Of course he did.  As evidenced by the fact that when Helen Markham looked at his eyes she just kind of fell over.

[Bill Chapman]

Of course he did.  As evidenced by the fact that when Helen Markham looked at his eyes she just kind of fell over.

Exactly, she recognized mystery guest number #2 (Oswald) from the Tippit scene, those cold dead eyes.
Good catch.

[Ray Mitcham]

Exactly, she recognized mystery guest number #2 (Oswald) from the Tippit scene, those cold dead eyes.
Good catch.

"Mr. BALL. Now when you went into the room you looked these people over, these four men?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You did not? Did you see anybody--I have asked you that question before did you recognize anybody from their face?
Mrs. MARKHAM. From their face, no.
Mr. BALL. Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I didn't know nobody.
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men.
Mr. BALL. No one of the four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No one of them.
Mr. BALL. No one of all four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was there a number two man in there?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two is the one I picked.

And the Feluccas have the temerity to quote her.

[Tim Nickerson]

"Mr. BALL. Now when you went into the room you looked these people over, these four men?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. You did not? Did you see anybody--I have asked you that question before did you recognize anybody from their face?
Mrs. MARKHAM. From their face, no.
Mr. BALL. Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I didn't know nobody.
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men.
Mr. BALL. No one of the four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No one of them.
Mr. BALL. No one of all four?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Was there a number two man in there?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two is the one I picked.

And the Feluccas have the temerity to quote her.

Ray, have you ever had it explained to you before? I believe that you have. In fact, I'm sure that you have.

She never knew any of them personally. Had not even seen any of them before that day. However, she did pick Oswald out of the line up as the man who she saw murder Officer Tippit.

You've never been able to grasp that? Or has old age caught up to you and your memory is shot?

[Ray Mitcham]

Ray, have you ever had it explained to you before? I believe that you have. In fact, I'm sure that you have.

If it was you who explained,  you were wrong then as well.

She never knew any of them personally.

She was never asked that question

Had not even seen any of them before that day.

She was never asked that question either.

However, she did pick Oswald out of the line up as the man who she saw murder Officer Tippet.

Only after being prompted by a leading question. ie. "Was there a number two man in there?"

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There were four men in the line up.

Ball"Did you recognise anybody in the line up?
Markham"No sir"
Ball" ..did you recognize anybody from their face?
Mrs. MARKHAM. "From their face, no."
Ball  "Did you identify anybody in these four people?
Mrs. MARKHAM. "I didn't know nobody". [sic]
Ball I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?
Mrs. MARKHAM. "No. I had never seen none of them, none of these men."


How much plainer does it have to be for you to understand?

[John Iacoletti]

She never knew any of them personally. Had not even seen any of them before that day.

Let's see.....did Ball ask her if she knew any of them personally or if she had seen any of them before that day?

No, that's right, he asked her if she recognized anyone in the lineup.