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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #744 on: June 07, 2018, 10:19:01 PM »
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Let's see.....did Ball ask her if she knew any of them personally or if she had seen any of them before that day?

No, that's right, he asked her if she recognized anyone in the lineup.

So all of a sudden Markham is clear-minded & lucid. How convenient for you. Explain Ball's obvious frustration with the way The Divine Miss M was responding to the questions.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #745 on: June 07, 2018, 11:46:31 PM »
So all of a sudden Markham is clear-minded & lucid. How convenient for you.

I didn't say she was clear-minded & lucid.  I said that she said she didn't recognize anyone in the lineup.

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Explain Ball's obvious frustration with the way The Divine Miss M was responding to the questions.

Because she wasn't giving him the answer he wanted.

Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #746 on: June 07, 2018, 11:57:33 PM »
First you have to show LHO went to Tenth and Patton. Well?

Helen Markham
William Scoggins
Barbara Davis
Virginia Davis
William Scoggins
Ted Callaway
Sam Guinyard
Warren Reynolds
Pat Patterson
Harold Russell

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #747 on: June 08, 2018, 12:15:43 AM »
These guys saw somebody at 10th and Patton?  Do tell!

Warren Reynolds
Pat Patterson
Harold Russell

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« Reply #748 on: June 08, 2018, 04:05:40 AM »
Helen Markham
William Scoggins
Barbara Davis
Virginia Davis
William Scoggins
Ted Callaway
Sam Guinyard
Warren Reynolds
Pat Patterson
Harold Russell

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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #749 on: June 08, 2018, 01:56:44 PM »
Helen Markham
William Scoggins
Barbara Davis
Virginia Davis
William Scoggins
Ted Callaway
Sam Guinyard
Warren Reynolds
Pat Patterson
Harold Russell

How the nutters interpret evidence.

WARREN REYNOLDS, part owner, Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, Dallas, advised on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, while sitting in his office, he had observed an individual running south on Patton Avenue toward Jefferson Street and then walking at a fast rate of speed west on Jefferson. As the individual was running down Patton Avenue, he had a pistol or an automatic in his possession and was apparently attempting to conceal same in his belt while he was running. REYNOLDS advised he had previously heard shots coming from the area of Tenth and Patton Streets and, thinking that possibly a marital argument had occurred and a shooting had taken place, he attempted to follow the individual in order that he could inform the Dallas Police Department of the individual's location.
He advised he stayed at a safe distance behind the individual and last observed the individual to turn north by the Ballew Texaco Service Station, and from this point he did not again observe the individual. He advised he made inquiry at Ballew's Texaco Service Station, and they informed him the individual had gone through the parking lot.
REYNOLDS advised approximately five or ten minutes later he was informed by an unknown source that the individual whom he had been "tailing" had shot and apparently killed a uniform officer of the Dallas Police Department.
REYNOLDS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, at which time he advised he is of the opinion OSWALD is the person he had followed on the afternoon of November 22, 1963; however, he would hesitate to definitely identify OSWALD as the individual.

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Mr. B.M. PATTERSON, 4635 Hartford Street, Dallas, Texas, currently employed by Wyatt's Cafeteria, 2647 South Lancaster, Dallas, Texas, advised he was present at the used car lot of JOHNNY REYNOLDS' on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. 
PATTERSON advised that at approximately 1:30 PM, he was standing on JONNY REYNOLDS' used car lot together with L.J. LEWIS and HAROLD RUSSELL when they heard shots coming from the vicinity of 10th and Patton Avenue, Dallas, Texas. A minute or so later they observed a white male approximately 30 years of age, running south on Patton Avenue, carrying what appeared to be a revolver in his hand and was obviously trying to reload same while running. When the individual reached the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, he placed the weapon inside his waistband and began walking west on the north side of Jefferson Street. As the individual was walking WARREN REYNOLDS suggested that they follow the individual to determine, his location in order that they could later notify the Dallas Police Department. At this point, he was unaware that a police officer had been shot and thought perhaps that the shooting had resulted from some marital problem. As the individual reached Ballew's Texaco Service Station located in the 600 Block of Jefferson, the individual made a turn in a northerly direction and proceeded behind Ballew's Texaco Service Station where the individual discarded a jacket which was later recovered by the Dallas Police Department.  WARREN REYNOLDS. 
"A minute or so later, they observed a white male, approximately thirty years of age, running south on Patton Avenue, carrying a revolver in his hand and was obviously trying to reload it. He stopped still and then reloaded the gun."

HAROLD RUSSELL, employee, Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, he was standing on the lot of Reynolds Used Cars together with L.J. LEWIS and PAT PATTERSON, at which time they heard shots come from the vicinity of Patton and Tenth Street, and a few seconds later they observed a young white man running south on Patton Avenue carrying a pistol or revolver which the individual was attempting to either reload or place in his belt line. Upon reaching the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, the individual stopped running and began walking at a fast pace, heading west on Jefferson.

Three witnesses who didn't see somebody at Tenth and Patton



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Re: Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket
« Reply #750 on: June 08, 2018, 04:49:14 PM »
He also forgot to mention that it took getting shot in the head for Reynolds to decide it was Oswald after all.

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« Reply #751 on: June 08, 2018, 07:13:23 PM »
Let's see.....did Ball ask her if she knew any of them personally or if she had seen any of them before that day?

No, that's right, he asked her if she recognized anyone in the lineup.

Totally unrelated to the FACT that Markham, long before she ever testified to the Warren Commission, indeed picked Oswald out as the cop-killer.

Whatever confusion existed during her testimony months later... It doesn't change the FACT that she positively identified the number 2 man.

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« Reply #751 on: June 08, 2018, 07:13:23 PM »