I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak (new book)

[Kathy Becket]

I couldn't figure out where I had called you a bully, so I reread my post:

So you may be presenting at Lancer next year? Bully! Try not to be so haughty when you go--you'll do a better job.

The "Bully" meaning  here is the same meaning Teddy R. gave to it.  I wasn't calling you a bully.     However, it was said sarcastically.

[Ray Mitcham]

I couldn't figure out where I had called you a bully, so I reread my post:The "Bully" meaning  here is the same meaning Teddy R. gave to it.  I wasn't calling you a bully.     However, it was said sarcastically.

Agreed, Kathy, as in "bully for you."

"A way of saying "Good for you!" or "Kudos." Also see bully.

It wasn't always used in a sarcastic tone, but considering how it's changed over time, people do use it in that way.

"In older times, the word 'bully' also had a couple of positive meanings, the only trace of which is left in the expression 'bully for you,' which is still occasionally used in British English - I can't comment on US English. I've mostly heard it used in a derisive or sarcastic way, along the lines of 'Well then, aren't *YOU* the clever one?'" "

[Thomas Graves]

Agreed, Kathy, as in "bully for you."

"A way of saying "Good for you!" or "Kudos." Also see bully.

It wasn't always used in a sarcastic tone, but considering how it's changed over time, people do use it in that way.

"In older times, the word 'bully' also had a couple of positive meanings, the only trace of which is left in the expression 'bully for you,' which is still occasionally used in British English - I can't comment on US English. I've mostly heard it used in a derisive or sarcastic way, along the lines of 'Well then, aren't *YOU* the clever one?'" "

Spot on, Old Bean.

Come to think of it, isn't the EF just James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio's, Michael "Gas-X" Clark's, and David "Mister Rude" Josephs' virtual bully pulpit?

-- Tommy 

[Rob Caprio]

Ray,

James DiEugenio?

You mean the high school history teacher who as recently as March 21st of this year stated on the EF that Alger Hiss was not a spy for the Kremlin?

The guy who idolizes intellectually-dishonest Jefferson Morley (see my 1-star review of Morley's "The Ghost" on Amazon, under the name dumptrumputin)?

The guy who refused to applaud at the conclusion of John Newman's "Spy Wars" presentation in San Francisco in March because Newman, having read Tennent H. Bagley's excellent book by the same name, is now convinced that Yuri Nosenko was a false defector, and Anatoliy Golitsyn a true one?

The guy who was sad that the Communist candidate lost the election to Yeltsin?

The guy whom Bill Kelley told me over the phone was a "cracker"?

The guy who is idolized on RT?

The guy who bemoans the demise of Alex Jones?

That James DiEugenio?

LOL

-- Tommy 

Why do LNers always mock instead of deal with the evidence?

[Rob Caprio]

Duncan,

That sounds about right.

Thanks,
-- Tommy 

PS  I just now did a little "research" and came up with this article, in which Cooper is mentioned, and Jumbo Duh is actually quoted for his "expert opinion."

LOL

How ironic!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/who-really-killed-jfk-experts-pick-the-wildest-conspiracy-theories

I've read where Cooper was attacked by self-proclaimed CTers like Lifton and Groden over the driver did it theory. This proves not everyone is what they claim to be.

I don't know if Greer shot JFK or not and that is the point. Due to no real investigation ever being done nothing, outside of the ridiculous SBT, can be ruled out. Cooper said in his book that he was viewing an enhanced version of the Zapruder film from Japan. Unless any of us have seen this, how can we say  he was bonkers?

Clint Hill and other witnesses said they heard a sound that was similar to a pistol. How do we explain this?

[Rob Caprio]

My earlier post, with the promised footnote added (my laptop ran out of juice).

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Caprio wrote:

Telling people to read something is a copout. Five people can read something and come away with a different conclusion. *You* claimed on this board that the KGB and Russians killed JFK and still have NOT offered one piece of evidence for this claim.

Your opinion is duly noted.

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Rob,

1) You're afraid to read one page in a well-sourced book I posted for you because somehow what's written on that page (paraphrasing here, Rob) "is open to five different interpretations by any five different people" (that's life, Rob), and yet you want me to post my (fact-based) opinions here (identical to what Bagley wrote in Spy Wars and Ghosts of the Spy Wars, and what Riebling wrote in Wedge (*with one exception so far; see below) so that you can .......... READ them?

How ironic.

2) I'm running away from my "opinion" that Khrushchev and / or Castro were responsible for the death of JFK, with or without a programmed-in-Minsk Oswald?

LOL!


-- Tommy   

PS  Whom do you believe killed JFK, Rob?

Got any uncontroverted "evidence" to back up your ....... opinion?

Did you form your opinions about the assassination by reading books, watching videos?

Are there any you think I should read / watch to bring me around to your way of thinking (whatever it is), or did your current "opinions" somehow spring automatically / mystically ... into your ..... mind?

LOL

* EDIT: On page 126 of the 1994 edition of Wedge, Riebling says Bedell Smith was U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union when CIA officer Edward Ellis Smith (look him up) became the first CIA officer recruited by the KGB (in Moscow in late 1956), when in fact Charles Bohlen was ambassador at the time.

In case you're interested, Edward Ellis Smith (or someone HE helped KGB to recruit in the U.S.) was that great JFK researcher Peter Dale Scott's "Popov's Mole," the never-uncovered-during-his-lifetime traitor whom Angleton may have sent Oswald to Moscow to try to "dangle out," and whom false defector Yuri Nosenko successfully protected by giving false information to Tennent H. Bagley and George Kisevalter in Geneva in 1962.  You know, Yuri Nosenko, the KGB officer who "defected" to the U.S. six weeks after the assassination and swore up and down that the KGB hadn't  even interviewed Odwald during the 2.5 years the Marine Corps radar operator lived in The Workers' Paradise?

LOL

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-- Tommy   

Thanks for expressing your opinion and other peoples' opinions. Give me a reason why the Russians would want JFK dead.

[Rob Caprio]

Dr Mr. Mitcham:  I don't know you at all. And you do not know me. I don't think you have read my book. And yet
you call me Fred Nitwit. I have no problem if you read my book and disagree with it and write a review. But, why
insult my name?

Fred

Why are the LNers insulting James DiEugenio's name? Sadly, that is how many in this field treat each other.

[Rob Caprio]

Fred,

Ray can't help it.

He's a protege of James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate-Education Forum.

LOL

-- Tommy 

Hilarious. So you are saying that someone else can't help themself as you do the SAME thing. What's your excuse?