In 54 years has anyone ever admitted to manufacturing or planting evidence?

[Gary Craig]

Connally Doc: "Magic Bullet" didn't cause wounds

"Dr. Robert Shaw, Governor Connally's physician, says that CE 399, the "Magic Bullet", could not have caused the wounds he saw and treated in Governor Connally."

[Allan Fritzke]

In the midst of your rambling incoherent babble, at least you got something right.

Since the conspirators would have no way to know if a bullet was recovered from Connally or JFK, then planting an additional bullet into the evidence would indeed mean that more than 3 shots were fired and cast doubt on Saint Patsy's ability to do so in the allotted time frame.

In essence, the planting of an additional bullet would hurt the lone shooter narrative, so why would the conspirators do that ?

You kooks aren't too bright.

I am afraid you aren't too bright!   Where is the bullet that entered Connally's leg?  Did it disappear into thin air?  Was it recovered?  Why not?  Was it hardpoint or softpoint?  Softpoint would have ripped him apart and mushroomed when it hit a rib.    The PBS Nova documentary (1988?)  claimed the rib was pulverized.    They suggested that the bullet found on the stretcher was this magic bullet.   We know only know of 2 bullets found.  The one that hit Kennedy's head  and the stretcher bullet, both were entered as evidence.    They didn't even bother to dig out the one from the pavement - it dissipated into thin air  (powder) and became street sweeper material - not a trace recoverd lol!
The so-called first bullet disappeared as did the one you would expect to have found lodged in Connally's leg to similar match the found one in Kennedy.  There was none recovered, not even a fragment.  It should have looked similar to Kennedy's if it was the same type fired by the same gun.   Naturally it would have had different deformation as it didn't strike a skull first!"
Consider an expert lone sniper wouldn't be switching different types of bullet tips and casings would he?  You like Remington or Winchester, you use one or the other that you think is best - not both"!   He bought different boxes and used the remnants from the shooting range in a random manner!   Mixing casings?  Laughable evidence!   Conspiracy?  Most definitely the evidence points in that direction!  No shots came from the sniper's nest in my opinion. 

[Jerry Organ]

Softpoint would have ripped him apart and mushroomed when it hit a rib.

Depends. The bullet struck a glancing blow along the rib. Was it tumbling or slowed down. A bullet that stuck a rib nose-on at full-velocity is not what happened to Connally according to the WCR. It's instead what some critics claim happened.

The PBS Nova documentary (1988?)  claimed the rib was pulverized.    They suggested that the bullet found on the stretcher was this magic bullet.   

If you mean the 2013 PBS Special "Cold Case JFK", the Haggs are merely career ballistics-experts, absentmindedly conducting meaningless tests using the exact same type of rifle and ammunition that the WC said Oswald used.

They didn't even bother to dig out the one from the pavement - it dissipated into thin air  (powder) and became street sweeper material - not a trace recoverd lol!

So a Carcano round fired into pavement will bury itself as if the asphalt were rubber? The Haggs found that the bullet disintegrated.

The Shot That Missed

The so-called first bullet disappeared as did the one you would expect to have found lodged in Connally's leg to similar match the found one in Kennedy.  There was none recovered, not even a fragment.  It should have looked similar to Kennedy's if it was the same type fired by the same gun.   Naturally it would have had different deformation as it didn't strike a skull first!"

A M-C bullet hitting hard tissue (like the thick skull bone) nose-on would have a different outcome than the same type of M-C bullet passing through soft tissue and then hitting a thin bone (like the fifth rib) after supposedly being slowed down and tumbling.

Consider an expert lone sniper wouldn't be switching different types of bullet tips and casings would he?  You like Remington or Winchester, you use one or the other that you think is best - not both"!   He bought different boxes and used the remnants from the shooting range in a random manner!   Mixing casings?  Laughable evidence!   Conspiracy?  Most definitely the evidence points in that direction!  No shots came from the sniper's nest in my opinion.

Rather than going Rube Goldberg, maybe watch the 2013 PBS Special to learn from the Haggs.

[Howard Gee]

Where is the bullet that entered Connally's leg?  Did it disappear into thin air?  Was it recovered?

 No shots came from the sniper's nest in my opinion.

Yes, the bullet was recovered. No, it didn't disappear into thin air. The bullet currently resides in the National Archive.

Your opinion that no shots came from the sniper's nest is contradicted by two witnesses that saw a gunman firing from there, another witness that saw a gun barrel being withdrawn from the window, 3 witnesses on the floor below the sniper's nest that testified they heard shots come from there, and 3 spent cartridges found on the floor in the sniper's nest.

Your opinion is worthless horsecrap.

[Bill Chapman]

Alright, I'll ignore your avoidance of stating whether you believe the examples cited are 'probable' evidence of tampering.

Let's start with the 'probable' planting of the magic bullet.

How on earth would the conspirators know whether any bullets were found in JFK or Connally at the time the 'magic bullet' would have had to be planted ?

They couldn't.

If a bullet was found in JFK and/or Connally that would mean that Saint Patsy would have had to get off even more than the 3 shots that the CT's already doubt he could have done. More shots = less chance Saint Patsy was a lone assassin. So why would they plant an additional bullet ?

Additionally, think about what the planting would entail.

Did the conspirators fire CE399 into some cotton wadding or water before the assassination and have it laying around somewhere so that Ruby or whoever could plant it ?

Did they have a bullet planting team waiting in Parkland ?

And if you're going to claim they substituted CE399 for the bullet Tomlinson found, you have to explain how they knew Tomlinson was going to find a bullet, or was he part of the conspiracy too ?

So I ask you, is the magic bullet planting scenario 'probable', or is it delusional kookery ?

What do you think, Jon ?

Howard, regarding testing bullets fired into cotton, don't the testers have to know the precise distance to the target before they can adjust the 'gunpowder load' (or whatever they call it) to make up the for the much shorter muzzle to barrel-of-cotton distance?

[John Iacoletti]

Either Oswald fired CE399 or someone else did.

Yes.  That doesn't mean it had to be before or during the assassination.

An unrelated stretcher?

Yes, an unrelated stretcher.  Tomlinson said he found it on the stretcher that was already there, not the one that came off the elevator from the second floor.

From a conspiracy book. Nuff said.

From the Warren Commission Report.  Nuff said.

[John Iacoletti]

The question is how does Iacoletti or yourself determined that the stretcher was unrelated?

How do you determine that CE 399 had anything to do with the assassination?

Btw there is no doubt that the bullet found was a complete bullet but how did anybody know at that point in time the conditions of the bodies and if the bodies contained bullets or parts of bullets?

Who says anybody did?

So what you apparently believe is that your conspirators just decided to plant a bullet that precisely fits the wounds and wasn't one too many, did they have the Lotto results too?

What makes you think that the pointed bullet that Tomlinson gave O.P. Wright precisely fit anything?  Or CE 399 for that matter?

CE399 was flattened on one side indicating that it had to have struck a solid object at an angle

Well if that ain't proof that it hit Connally then I don't know what is.   

and we know by Connally's linear type back wound that it must have been caused by a tumbling bullet.

Or a bullet entering at an angle.

[John Iacoletti]

Just tell me how you think they could positively identify the bullet, did they mark it, take a photograph, memorize the microscopic striations, do a chemical analysis or what exactly?

...and yet somehow you are sure that it was the same bullet.