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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2018, 04:31:33 AM »
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Mr. KELLERMAN. As we turned off Houston onto Elm and made the short little dip to the left going down grade, as I said, we were away from buildings, and were?there was a sign on the side of the road which I don't recall what it was or what it said, but we no more than passed that and you are out in the open, and there is a report like a firecracker, pop. And I turned my head to the right because whatever this noise was I was sure that it came from the right and perhaps into the rear, and as I turned my head to the right to view whatever it was or see whatever it was, I heard a voice from the back seat and I firmly believe it was the President's, "My God, I am hit," and I turned around and he has has got his hands up here like this.

Mr. KELLERMAN. OK. From the noise of which I was in the process of turning to determine where it was or what it was, it carried on right then. Why I am so positive, gentlemen, that it was his voice?there is only one man in that back seat that was from Boston, and the accents carried very clearly.

Mr. SPECTER. Well, had you become familiar with the President's voice prior to that day?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes; very much so.
Mr. SPECTER. And what was the basis for your becoming familiar with his voice prior to that day?
Mr. KELLERMAN. I had been with him for 3 years.
Mr. SPECTER. And had you talked with him on a very frequent basis during the course of that association?
Mr. KELLERMAN. He was a very free man to talk to; yes. He knew most all the men, most everybody who worked in the White House as well as everywhere, and he would call you.
Mr. SPECTER. And from your experience would you say that you could recognize the voice?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Very much, sir; I would.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, I think you may have answered this, but I want to pinpoint just when you heard that statement which you have attributed to President Kennedy in relationship to the sound which you described as a firecracker.
Mr. KELLERMAN. This noise which I attribute as a firecracker, when this occurred and I am in the process of determining where it comes because I am sure it came off my right rear somewhere; the voice broke in right then.
Mr. SPECTER. At about the same time?
Mr. KELLERMAN. That is correct, sir. That is right.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, did President Kennedy say anything beside, "My God, I am hit."
Mr. KELLERMAN. That is the last words he said, sir.

Mr. SPECTER. You just indicated that you had turned to the left. Had you turned to the left after hearing his voice?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes; certainly.



Anyone else in the back seat of the Limo, directly behind Kellerman, that spoke in a Boston accent?

A through and through bullet strike coming out of the throat (an essential requirement for the SBT) and you can clearly speak?

Kellerman was just mistaken about what he heard. His first statement on 11/23 was JFK saying "get me to a hospital." not "My God I am hit." Kellerman just thought he heard something.

Mrs. CONNALLY. In fact the receptions had been. so good every place that I had showed much restraint by not mentioning something about it before.
I could resist no longer. When we got past this area I did turn to the President and said, "Mr. President, you can't say Dallas doesn't love you."
Then I don't know how soon, it seems to me it was very soon, that I heard a noise, and not being an expert rifleman, I was not aware that it was a rifle. It was just a frightening noise, and it came from the right.
I turned over my right shoulder and looked back, and saw the President as he had both hands at his neck.
Mr. SPECTER. And you are indicating with your own hands, two hands crossing over gripping your own neck?
Mrs. CONNALLY. Yes; and it seemed to me there was--he made no utterance, no cry. I saw no blood, no anything. It was just sort of nothing, the expression on his face, and he just sort of slumped down.
Then very soon there was the second shot that hit John. As the first shot was hit, and I turned to look at the same time, I recall John saying, "Oh, no, no, no." Then there was a second shot, and it hit John, and as he recoiled to the right, just crumpled like a wounded animal to the right, he said, "My God, they are going to kill us all."

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2018, 04:31:33 AM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #129 on: September 24, 2018, 04:44:39 AM »
Connally's thigh was deep within the Limo, how did a bullet reach his thigh, was this assassin part of your blimp team?

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #130 on: September 24, 2018, 07:05:52 AM »
[...you could have omitted this...]
Immediately I heard what I firmly believe was the President's voice, "My God, I'm hit!" I turned around to find out what happened when two additional shots rang out, and the President slumped into Mrs. Kennedy's lap and Governor Connally fell_to Mrs. Connally's lap. I heard Mrs. Kennedy shout, "What are they doing to you?"

I yelled at William Greer (the driver) to "Step on it, we're hit!" and grabbed the mike from the car radio, called to SA Lawson in the police lead car that we were hit and to get us to a hospital.
Nellie Connally, John Connally, and Mrs Kennedy all testified that JFK didn't say a word. Nor did Greer report hearing from JFK, IIRC.

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #130 on: September 24, 2018, 07:05:52 AM »


Offline John Mytton

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #131 on: September 24, 2018, 10:41:19 AM »
But SSA Kellerman did. Otherwise why say it at all?

Typical Kook logic, everyone who was close is ignored but one person says what you want to hear and you latch on like a dog on a bone.

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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #132 on: September 24, 2018, 10:50:34 AM »
Typical Kook logic, everyone who was close is ignored but one person says what you want to hear and you latch on like a dog on a bone.

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Why don't you believe Connolly when he said he was hit by the second bullet, then? He was closest to it. (or is that just Nutter logic?)

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #132 on: September 24, 2018, 10:50:34 AM »


Offline John Mytton

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #133 on: September 24, 2018, 10:52:35 AM »

Mrs Kennedy was looking in the opposite direction to where JFK was sitting and had a motorcycle close to her (left hand side). It is likely she didn't hear her husband because of the noise around her at the time.


Hilarious, Kennedy's own wife who was sitting right next him couldn't hear through the noise but someone sitting further away and facing forward says what Fratini wants to hear and suddenly become a star witness? Far out!

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #134 on: September 24, 2018, 10:53:40 AM »
Why don't you believe Connolly when he said he was hit by the second bullet, then? He was closest to it. (or is that just Nutter logic?)

Connally was hit by the second bullet.

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #135 on: September 24, 2018, 10:58:24 AM »
Connally was hit by the second bullet.

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The one after JFK was hit, according to him.

We had just made the turn, well, when I heard what I thought was a shot. I heard this noise which I immediately took to be a rifle shot. I instinctively turned to my right because the sound appeared to come from over my right
shoulder, so I turned to look back over my right shoulder, and I saw nothing unusual except just people in the crowd, but I did not catch the President in the corner of my eye, and I was interested, because once I heard the shot in my own mind I identified it as a rifle shot, and I immediately--the only thought that crossed my mind was that this is an assassination attempt.
So I looked, failing to see him, I was turning to look back over my left shoulder into the back seat, but I never got that far in my turn. I got about in the position I am in now facing you, looking a little bit to the left of center, and then I felt like someone had hit me in the back.

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #135 on: September 24, 2018, 10:58:24 AM »