If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?

[Jack Nessan]

You can not make that deduction in regards to CE 399 going through JFK. The bullet that penetrated JFK in his upper back was not tracked by dissection of the neck organs. That's a fact. The evidence from physical examination of JFK by the prosectors, and witnessed by two FBI agents, pointed to a shallow wound of entrance. The use of a metal probe failed to penetrate beyond the shallow wound despite JFK's lungs being removed. The bullet that struck JFK in his upper back could well have been "defective" and had less powder to propel the bullet at full velocity or it hit something in line with the trajectory to sufficiently slow it down.

JFK was given cardiac massage and it was possible that the bullet had dislodged without anyone noticing it as he never was turned over at Parklands.

Dr. CARRICO. As we said initially this was an acute emergency situation and there was not time initially and when the cardiac massage was done this prevented any further examination during this time this was being done. After the President was pronounced dead his wife was there, he was the President, and we felt certainly that complete examination would be carried out and no one had the heart, I believe, to examine him then.

Mr. SPECTER. And what theory did you think possible, at that juncture, to explain the passing of the bullet back out the point of entry; or had you been provided with the fact that external heart massage had been performed on the President?
Commander HUMES. Yes, sir; we had, and we considered the possibility that some of the physical maneuvering performed by the doctors might have in some way caused this event to take place.

Did anyone go through the bloodied sheets to search for a spent bullet? Anyone check the casket?

No metal was found on the front of JFK's clothing, yet copper was found on the back of the jacket and shirt.

Then, we have Kellerman - you know where l am about to go with this?

You don't need the SBT at all  - three shots, three hits. One non-penetrating.

So how did the lead fragments end up in JC's wrist and thigh?

The SBT is certainly no fact and that's why the WC left it at that.

The identity of the gunman who actually did the firing and from where is still unknown.

When the bullet struck JFK's head and shattered can you account for every bullet fragment and where they went?

Max Holland believes somewhere in dealey plaza there is a lost FMJ bullet. Why did it have to be "lost" in Dealey Plaza?

As you know, people react differently to being struck by a bullet.

What Arlen did in asking the Drs such leading and loaded questions was amateurish at best.

Mr. SPECTER. Dr. Shaw, assume if you will certain facts to be true in hypothetical form, that is, that the President was struck in the upper portion of the back or lower portion of the neck with a 6.5-mm. missile passing between the strap muscles of the President's neck, proceeding through a facia channel striking no bones, not violating the pleural cavity, and emerging through the anterior third of the neck, with the missile having been fired from a weapon having a muzzle velocity of approximately 2,000 feet per second, with the muzzle being approximately 100 to 250 feet from the President's body; that the missile was a copper jacketed bullet. Would it be possible for that bullet to have then proceeded approximately 4 or 5 feet and then would it be possible for it to have struck Governor Connally in the back and have inflicted the wound which you have described on the posterior aspect of his chest, and also on the anterior aspect of his chest?

From the above what do you think was actually proved?

Speaking of maximum speculation. All very interesting. Nonsense but interesting someone could come up with this BS.

How do you aim and fire a gun in which the bullet only ends up penetrating several inches? What is it, lack of powder in the cartridge? Some form of dud? If this is the case then the bullet would have hit the SS car or the street behind them. Do you aim really high because the bullet has no energy behind it. Do you just throw it by hand and hope it hits?

Still left with the question of how was JBC wounded if the bullet does not pass through JFK first. Seems you have proven that is the only answer there is.

Speaking of Kellerman, his second shot was the head shot, maybe you didn't know that:

Mr. SPECTER. Now, to the best of your ability to recollect, exactly when did your automobile first accelerate?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Our car accelerated immediately on the time-at the time--this flurry of shots came into it.
Mr. SPECTER. Would you say the acceleration--
Mr. KELLERMAN. Between the second and third shot.

Senator COOPER. Might I ask a question there?
Mr. SPECTER. Yes.
Senator COOPER. A few minutes ago you said in response to a question that when you spoke to the driver the car leaped forward from an acceleration immediately. Did that acceleration occur before the second shot was fired?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir. Just about the time that it came in.
Senator COOPER. About the time it came in?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir.
Senator COOPER. Not before?
Mr. KELLERMAN. No.

[Howard Gee]

You can not make that deduction in regards to CE 399 going through JFK. The bullet that penetrated JFK in his upper back was not tracked by dissection of the neck organs. That's a fact. The evidence from physical examination of JFK by the prosectors, and witnessed by two FBI agents, pointed to a shallow wound of entrance. The use of a metal probe failed to penetrate beyond the shallow wound despite JFK's lungs being removed. The bullet that struck JFK in his upper back could well have been "defective" and had less powder to propel the bullet at full velocity or it hit something in line with the trajectory to sufficiently slow it down.

JFK was given cardiac massage and it was possible that the bullet had dislodged without anyone noticing it as he never was turned over at Parklands.

Sorry Tony, but you're making this much more complicated than it really is, hence your confusion. Try to stay focused and follow along.

We know the bullet that hit JFK in the back didn't fall out during cardiac massage and go undiscovered in his casket or in sheets at Parkland, here's why;

We can definitively prove the bullet that entered his back had to exit his throat by the process of elimination.

Once again, since there is no exit wound for a bullet that would have entered JFK's throat and no bullet was found in his neck we must conclude that the throat wound was an exit wound.

Let that sink in.

Anterior throat entry is impossible because there is no exit wound for a frontal entry throat shot and no bullet found in the neck.

You're not going to seriously postulate that a bullet entered JFK's throat and fell out during cardiac massage too, are you ?

Sorry, but we absolutely CAN deduce that 399 transited JFK.

SINGLE BULLET FACT

[Andrew Mason]

I do believe we are making some progress here.

Since you don't believe 399 was planted, then how do you suppose it was found at Parkland ?

It certainly didn't fall off of JFK's gurney as that gurney was still in the trauma room that JFK was cooling off on.

Therefore, we know by the process of elimination that 399 must have been the bullet that wounded JBC. How else could it have gotten there ?

CE399 was a bullet that wounded JBC.  But that does not necessarily mean it caused all his wounds. It is possible, if not probable, his wounds were caused by separate bullets.

Now, let's deal with JFK's back/throat wound.

Since we know that no bullet was found in JFK's neck, we know that the throat wound had to be an exit wound.

We know this by the process of elimination. Since there is no exit wound for a bullet entering JFK's throat, and no bullet found in his neck, the inescapable conclusion is that the bullet which struck him in the back had to have exited through his throat, causing that wound.

This isn't speculation, it's fact.

So now we have established that a bullet entered JFK's back, passed through him, and exited his throat.

Next, we must ask what happened to the bullet that passed throught JFK.

Since there is no bullet found in the limo, we must conclude that the bullet that passed through JFK, went on to wound JBC, and was the one recovered at Parkland, CE399.

How else could it have happened ?

As I've said before, the application of a little common sense and logical deductive reasoning is all that's necessary to arrive at the SINGLE BULLET FACT.

Logic alone does not solve facts. Evidence helps. 

The evidence is very consistent that JFK was struck in the back/neck on the first shot and JBC was struck in the back on the second. JBC never realized that he was struck in the thigh or the wrist until the next day.  It is not uncommon for people to be hit by bullets and not realize it. The trajectory through JFK's neck goes to JBC's left.  There was only one wound on JBC's left side. The wound characteristics of the thigh wound are consistent with the condition of CE399 if it struck butt-first.  For some unknown reason, no one has ever even considered that possibility, let alone rejected it. 

[Howard Gee]

The evidence is very consistent that JFK was struck in the back/neck on the first shot and JBC was struck in the back on the second.

Nonsense. How much time do you think elapsed between the first and second shot ? How many shots do you have being fired ?

But for the sake of argument let's assume this preposterous suggestion that JFK is hit by the first shot and then JBC is hit by the second shot several seconds later (even though the Zap film clearly shows that both men are wounded simultaneously or in extremely close proxmity), is correct.

What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?

[Ray Mitcham]

Nonsense. How much time do you think elapsed between the first and second shot ? How many shots do you have being fired ?

But for the sake of argument let's assume this preposterous suggestion that JFK is hit by the first shot and then JBC is hit by the second shot several seconds later (even though the Zap film clearly shows that both men are wounded simultaneously or in extremely close proxmity), is correct.

No good assuming something which you can't prove.

What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?

Prove that the bullet hit JFK in the back and exited his throat.

[Howard Gee]

No good assuming something which you can't prove.
Prove that the bullet hit JFK in the back and exited his throat.

Already did that, Ray. Read my posts above.

[Gary Craig]

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[Howard Gee]

Who said it had exited? No one proved that the upper back wound was connected to the wound in the throat.

I proved it in my posts above.