John Newman on Veciana

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Of course, the main argument is always "there is no evidence". Don't you folks have the imagination to wonder... Why?

       Why exactly are the limo blueprints hidden and nobody, I repeat nobody knows their whereabouts?

Back to Veciana: Maurice Bishop (aka Not-So-Secret Santa) was able to supply him with any resource he desired (much like ABC, PBS, Kochs, Haags, Sturdivan, etc.) during a decade. If Antonio had said:

[Veciana:] "An aircraft carrier".

[Bishop:] "Which class? Don't you rather have two?"

(I am, of course, exaggerating for effect)

How about the meeting in Caracas where a TV station (I happen to know the owners of Venevision, the Cisneros, fierce anticommunists) provided the cameras to hide the weapons and kill Fidel in Santiago de Chile during Allende's inauguration? The Cisneros are Cubans closely affiliated with powerful people. So the CIA knew nothing? Boy, what a bunch of incompetent keystone kops!

Even if it was not the CIA (let's say that some other rich/powerful source was Veciana's benefactor). Can you look us in the eye and claim that the CIA was completely ignorant about such well provisioned man and movement (Alpha 66)? In the most closely watched corridor (Miami - Habana) in the planet?

    https://goo.gl/D4AFbE  [Click in HSCA.mp4, then fast forward to minute 1:00"]

In the videoclip above you can see John McCone, head of the CIA acknowledged before Congress having an agent using the cover name "Maurice Bishop", but then recanted. That detail was kept secret for a long time (thanks again, Oliver Stone!). Hardway and Lopez were furious. Even G. Robert Blakey has changed his tune today, veering his accusing finger from the mob to the CIA.

    "The job of a spy is to lie, and then lie some some more"

-Ramon
JFK Numbers


ps: Tracy: I posted something specially for you, Chez McAdams, in the thread where you kiss his ring.

Veciana says in his book that Bishop provided no funds/money at all to his group. Evidence (in the book and elsewhere) indicates that he, Veciana, had enormous problems funding operations for it. In fact, Alpha 66 splintered into several factions early on due to internal divisions and financial problems.

Many of the exiles, especially the wealthier ones, refused to give money to Alpha 66 because they viewed it as a leftist/socialist organization. This was because the military leader of the group - Eloy Menoyo - joined Castro's government briefly after the revolution. They didn't trust him.

So your claim that Alpha 66 got whatever they want from Bishop is belied by Veciana's own account that he, Bishop, never provided money for their operations.

It is apparently true - based on Veciana's account - that when his group needed munitions or arms that they were always supplied with them. So if he's being truthful - doubtful in my opinion - then someone or some group was providing those resources to his group.

Just to add: Alpha 66 operated from overseas; their home base during this period was in Puerto Rico and the British Isles. Not Miami.

As to McCone: Nowhere in his testimony did McCone "acknowledge[] before Congress having an agent using the cover name "Maurice Bishop". McCone testified that he remembers hearing about a CIA employee named Maurice Bishop. Nothing about an "agent using the cover name."

Here is his relevant testimony:


Nothing here about Bishop being a cover name. In fact, he says here that it was the name of an employee and not a pseudonym.

Source: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1212#relPageId=54&tab=page

[Mark A. Oblazney]

?.continued from my last post.

The following was originally posted here.:
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,144.msg2931.html#msg2931
Priscilla's Neighborhood, traces of George Bouhe, Ilya Mamantov, Thomas Devine
Clark Clifford did not attend Yale and was not Skull and Bones.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Clifford

Friends in High Places: The Rise and Fall of Clark Clifford - Page 15
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0316291625


I do find it curious that the man married to Clifford's aunt Marguerite Bowman McAdams in late
1964 was a close friend of Priscilla's first cousin, David C Davenport, CIA, and performed as driver
and bodyguard of Priscilla and Marina.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=60397&relPageId=146 and http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=60313&relPageId=49

20 October, 2001

Without Reservations: From Harlem to the End of the Santa Fe Trail
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0943734363


2-1/2 years later, Clark Cilfford's first cousin JoAnne McAdams
filed a lawsuit against that man, her stepfather Jerome Jerre Hastings Hasty, his friend David Davenport,
and several doctors for involuntarily committing her to the State of New Mexico mental hospital.

No one reacts to those facts because they do not know what to make of them despite the uncontested
facts that support all of that as true!

Caprio and company must read it in a 40 year old book to embrace it unconditionally.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/author-85-knew-jfk-killer-oswald-article-1.1525293

Marina Oswald (left), widow of Lee Harvey Oswald, with friend Jerre Hastings (center) and Priscilla Johnson McMillan. McMillan befriended Oswald after the assassination of JFK. (JOSH REYNOLDS/JOSH REYNOLDS PHOTO)

1954 Obit:

1940 U.S. Census snippet of a household in New Trier (Winnetka)Illinois:

On April 26, 1940, Jerome A Hastings was a 29 year old man who was born in Wisconsin and was employed as a buyer at a country club. His education level was C2, two years of college. Hastings' annual income was just over $300. In 1935 his residence was in Flemington, NJ.

On May 18, Jerome Hasty was a 29 year old man who was born in Wisconsin and was employed as a officer at a country club. His education level was C1, one year of college. Hasty's annual income was just over $600. In 1935 his residence was in Carmel-by-the-Sea, CAL.

26 years later, Jerome Allen Hasty files a notice of legal change of name from Hasty to Hastings:

Um, can anyone tell me why no one has made any comments on Tom's last two posts?  Is no one interested?  He has been presenting much of these findings over the years, but to deaf ears it would seem, save the descendants of this small 'club' he writes of, whom I'm sure reads them in horror.

[Mark A. Oblazney]

Do the coincidences dilute the research or obscure the meaning of it?

Despite my repeated direct communications to John Simkin, I was unable to influence him to correct the following article to display the
fact that Priscilla Johnson who interviewed Oswald in Moscow in 1959 and later authored the book, Marina & Lee, was Priscilla Mary Post Johnson.

Based on the research of John Newmam, I was able to find that Priscilla Livingston Johnson, born in Stockholm in 1922 as John Newman pointed out,
served in OSS in London in WWII and married soon to be CIA officer in 1945, Thomas McCoy, who later "volunteered" along with his best friend Tom Finney
in the 1968 presidential campaign of Eugene McCarthy.
           ?..
We are left to make of all of this, what we will; a recap of backgrounds and relationships.:
In his 1968 presidential campaign, in addtion to known CIA clandestine operatives McCoy and Finney, Eugene McCarthy was assisted by two other men who had backgrounds easily associated with
U.S. intelligence and espionage work, McCarthy's neighbor John Safer, and Larry Merthan, WWII bomber navigator fluent in German, who had worked for the State Dept. in Stuttgart in 1946 and temporarily left his law practice in 1959 to work for a State Dept. educational program in West Germany. He married Bill Harvey's secretary, later Rosalind Carter's White House assistant, Rita Chapowicki. Rita's sister was a Navy nurse "installed" by George Burkley in response to JFK's choice of his own female personal physician. Nurse Elizabeth Chapowicki and Navy Capt. George Burkley continued at the White House through the administration of LBJ.
So, one or the other of the two Chapowicki sisters was in an intimate White House position during nearly the entire administrations of the three democratic party affiliated US presidents in office between 1961 and 1981, and Rita Chapowicki's husband Larry was
close to democratic senator and presidential candidate McCarthy.
?...


In the small, tight knit Bar Harbor, ME community of the 1930s and 40s were John D Rockefeller II and his sons, Priscilla Livingston Johnson's father,
diplomate Hallett Johnson, John Train's father, Arthur Train, and of course, John McCloy.

John Train's partner Tom Devine roomed with 16 Sigma Chi frat brothers on the MIT campus fraternity house with Gary Coit, CIA handler of Priscilla Mary Post
Johnson. Devine had nine contacts with DeMphrenschildt, beginning April 25, 1963, just 15 days after the alleged shooting attempt against Gen. Edwin Walker.

Tom Finney was law partner of Clark Clifford, loaned to CIA in 1955 to serve in Denmark, and loaned again in 1968 to the Eugene McCarthy campaign.

The man in this 1964 photo, a close friend and Santa Fe, NM neighbor of Priscilla's first cousin, David C Davenport, formerly of the CIA, was Jerome A Hasty,
aka Hastings, married at the time the photo was taken in late 1964, to the aunt of Clark Clifford, Marguerite Bowman McAdams.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/author-85-knew-jfk-killer-oswald-article-1.1525293

Marina Oswald (left), widow of Lee Harvey Oswald, with friend Jerre Hastings (center) and Priscilla Johnson McMillan. McMillan befriended Oswald after the assassination of JFK. (Josh Reynolds/JOSH REYNOLDS PHOTO)

Again.......... why no interest in Tom's findings/connections?  Is it not pertinent to the thread?  Or is this just 'Ramon's Corner'?