Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar

[Richard Smith]

There's no supporting evidence for that tale, as usual.

More unsupported BS, see above.

Meaning, more unsupported BS from you piling up since Marina can't confirm her own unsupported claim.

Any fact poking holes in your fantasy is meaningless, surprise?

Marina can't confirm her own uncorroborated claim, how many times have you been schooled on this?

"ambiguity" -- ROFL -- nobody said her BS story was ambiguous.

Perfectly sums up your illinformed rants.

Unverified claim, see above.

Ruth translated, good luck with that.

Irrelevant what she imagened was inside the blanket no matter how certain she was.

There's not a shred of evidence, physical or otherwise, that the carcano was ever in that blanket roll.

Classic contrarian nonsense.  Who exactly would "corroborate" the contents of a blanket that belonged to LHO and Marina?  And if Ruth Paine or the Hamburglar had done so, you would claim they were part of the plot.  Hilarious.  But again, the actual point under discussion is whether Marina was ambiguous on the point of whether she saw a rifle in the blanket (whatever fantasy you want to entertain for her confirming this point) as falsely suggested by the contrarians.  Marina, without any ambiguity whatsoever, confirms in her words and actions that a rifle belonging to LHO was kept in the blanket.  She didn't "assume" this (a bizarre claim) but said that she saw "the rifle."  It was gone when the police checked the blanket just hours after crime and can be accounted for in no other way except as the rifle found in the TSBD.  The rifle that had the same serial number that third party documents confirm was sent to Oswald's PO Box.  The same rifle that Oswald's print was found on.  The rifle (as Marina said). Slam dunk.

[Walt Cakebread]

Classic contrarian nonsense.  Who exactly would "corroborate" the contents of a blanket that belonged to LHO and Marina?  And if Ruth Paine or the Hamburglar had done so, you would claim they were part of the plot.  Hilarious.  But again, the actual point under discussion is whether Marina was ambiguous on the point of whether she saw a rifle in the blanket (whatever fantasy you want to entertain for her confirming this point) as falsely suggested by the contrarians.  Marina, without any ambiguity whatsoever, confirms in her words and actions that a rifle belonging to LHO was kept in the blanket.  She didn't "assume" this (a bizarre claim) but said that she saw "the rifle."  It was gone when the police checked the blanket just hours after crime and can be accounted for in no other way except as the rifle found in the TSBD.  The rifle that had the same serial number that third party documents confirm was sent to Oswald's PO Box.  The same rifle that Oswald's print was found on.  The rifle (as Marina said). Slam dunk.

She didn't "assume" this (a bizarre claim) but said that she saw "the rifle."

  Marina did not say she saw "the rifle" she said that she saw a piece of wood in the blanket.....She assumed it was the wooden stock of a long arm. ( rifle or shotgun )

 It was gone when the police checked the blanket just hours after crime and can be accounted for in no other way except as the rifle found in the TSBD. The fact is.....Whatever Marina saw in the blanket could have been removed long before 11/22/63.

  The rifle that had the same serial number that third party documents confirm was sent to Oswald's PO Box.  The same rifle that Oswald's print was found on. ...   This is pure BS....  There was no identifiable print found on the carcano.   The authorities have lied about finding Lee's palm print on a surface that is physically too small to hold an identifiable palm print.

The rifle (as Marina said).

[Richard Smith]

She didn't "assume" this (a bizarre claim) but said that she saw "the rifle."

  Marina did not say she saw "the rifle" she said that she saw a piece of wood in the blanket.....She assumed it was the wooden stock of a long arm. ( rifle or shotgun )

 It was gone when the police checked the blanket just hours after crime and can be accounted for in no other way except as the rifle found in the TSBD. The fact is.....Whatever Marina saw in the blanket could have been removed long before 11/22/63.

  The rifle that had the same serial number that third party documents confirm was sent to Oswald's PO Box.  The same rifle that Oswald's print was found on. ...   This is pure BS....  There was no identifiable print found on the carcano.   The authorities have lied about finding Lee's palm print on a surface that is physically too small to hold an identifiable palm print.

The rifle (as Marina said).

Stop cutting and pasting from the contrarians.  You have also dishonestly distorted what Marina actually said.  She said nothing about a "wooden stock of a long arm."  LOL.  In response to a question about the rifle, she confirmed that she had seen the "wooden part of it, the wooden stock."  The only "it" involved in the question is the rifle.  And, of course, Oswald's rifle has a "wooden stock."  Did Marina see a rifle in the blanket or not?

Mr. RANKIN. Was the rifle carried in some kind of a case when you went back with Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. OSWALD. After we arrived, I tried to put the bed, the child's crib together, the metallic parts, and I looked for a certain part, and I came upon something wrapped in a blanket. I thought that was part of the bed, but it turned out to be the rifle.



Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever check to see whether the rifle was in the blanket?

Mrs. OSWALD. I never checked to see that. There was only once that I was interested in finding out what was in that blanket, and I saw that it was a rifle


Mr. RANKIN. And then you found that the rifle was in the blanket, did you?

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, I saw the wooden part of it, the wooden stock.

[John Iacoletti]

Marina, without any ambiguity whatsoever, confirms in her words and actions that a rifle belonging to LHO was kept in the blanket.  She didn't "assume" this (a bizarre claim) but said that she saw "the rifle."

She most certainly did. It was rolled up in a blanket and tied with string. She didn’t unwrap it. She just looked in the end and saw part of a wooden stock that she took to be a rifle. And that was 6 weeks earlier.

It was gone when the police checked the blanket just hours after crime and can be accounted for in no other way except as the rifle found in the TSBD. 

You don’t get to shift the burden. You can either demonstrate that Marina saw C2766 or you cannot. And you cannot.

The rifle that had the same serial number that third party documents confirm was sent to Oswald's PO Box. 

Bull. There’s nothing showing that anything was actually shipped though the postal service, delivered to the Dallas post office, or signed for and picked up by Oswald or anybody else.

The same rifle that Oswald's print was found on.

Bull. A partial palmprint showed up a week later on an index card.

[Bill Chapman]

'If Marina didn't think that Lee might be involved....WHY did she go to the garage to see if the rifle was still there??

Because heretofore there had been no other time when a POTUS had been shot from a building where her husband was working. Duh.
Where do they get you jokers? You lot just can't seem to think outside the sandbox.

[Walt Cakebread]

Because heretofore there had been no other time when a POTUS had been shot from a building where her husband was working. Duh.
Where do they get you jokers? You lot just can't seem to think outside the sandbox.

'If Marina didn't think that Lee might be involved....WHY did she go to the garage to see if the rifle was still there??

Because heretofore there had been no other time when a POTUS had been shot from a building where her husband was working.

But Marina didn't know that the authorities were reporting that the shots were suspected to have came from the TSBD....until Ruth Paine told her that the shots had been fired from the building where Lee worked.....except Ruth said that she thought that Lee worked in a different building (the warehouse behind the TSBD ) so why did Ruthie tell marina that the shots had been fired  from the building where Lee worked?   

[Bill Chapman]

'If Marina didn't think that Lee might be involved....WHY did she go to the garage to see if the rifle was still there??

Because heretofore there had been no other time when a POTUS had been shot from a building where her husband was working.

But Marina didn't know that the authorities were reporting that the shots were suspected to have came from the TSBD....until Ruth Paine told her that the shots had been fired from the building where Lee worked.....except Ruth said that she thought that Lee worked in a different building (the warehouse behind the TSBD ) so why did Ruthie tell marina that the shots had been fired  from the building where Lee worked?   

What a tangled mess that reply is.

[Richard Smith]

Read Marina's 11/22 affidavit and get back to us when you understand that she didn't remember the scope and could not identify the rifle as being Oswald's.

Run Otto run.

Didn't remember the scope?  LOL.  That's a lot different than claiming there was no rifle in the blanket and she just saw some unknown item made of wood. 

"I was interested in finding out what was in that blanket, and I saw that it was a rifle." - Marina Oswald.