Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar

[John Iacoletti]

What a tortured explanation of a simple point.  Ruth heard on the news that shots were fired from the building in which Oswald worked.  She very understandably mentioned that to Marina.

And again, Ruth said she didn’t know he worked in that building. What the hell is wrong with you?

[Richard Smith]

Such a weak and dishonest attempt at deflection.  Here is what the testimony of Ruth and Marina tells us:

1) Ruth Paine knew LHO worked at the something called the "Texas School Book Depository" because she had assisted in getting him that job.
2) Ruth learned from the early TV reports that the shots came from the TSBD.
3) Ruth told Marina that the shots came from the building in which her husband worked (whether or not there could have been confirmation at that point as to which of the TSBD buildings Oswald worked in downtown).
4) Upon being told this information, Marina checked the blanket in the Paine's garage because she knew that is where Oswald kept his rifle and there was cause for her to be concerned from his nutty attempt to kill Walker.
 
Marina's actions upon being told (again rightly or wrongly based upon the information known to Ruth Paine at that moment) that the shots had been fired from the building in which her husband worked can't be explained in any other way.  Marina responded to that information by checking the garage for the blanket because she knew that is where her nutty husband kept his rifle and she was relieved to find the blanket still there for that reason.

[Richard Smith]

Circular 

There's no evidence that Marina checked anything.

Sure there is.  Marina told us she did so.  That is evidence (direct testimony of the person who took the action in question) unless there is some reasonable basis to suggest that she is lying.  But tell us why she would be lying about this including your evidence to support this conclusion?  If there was any doubt that Marina believed that Oswald kept a rifle in the blanket at this early stage before any coercion could be applied to her, we know that just a short while later that day when asked by the police as to whether her husband owned a rifle, she directed them to the same blanket!!!  This is just a couple hours after the assassination and before she knows her husband is even involved.

[John Iacoletti]

Such a weak and dishonest attempt to spread misinformation. If Ruth thought Lee worked in the other warehouse, she couldn’t possibly have told Marina that the shots came from the building in which her husband worked.

[Martin Weidmann]

What a weak deflection.  Even if she had no clue where the building was in Dallas why would that matter when the media was reporting that the shots came from the TSBD?  Where her husband worked.  After learning this, Marina then checks the blanket for a rifle.  The only explanation for that action is that 1) she knew her husband possessed a rifle and kept it in that blanket; and 2) that her husband was a nut capable of such a thing because of his past history attempting to kill Walker.  This occurs right after the assassination before Marina has even been approached by the authorities or could have been subject to any coercion on the topic.

After learning this, Marina then checks the blanket for a rifle.  The only explanation for that action is that 1) she knew her husband possessed a rifle and kept it in that blanket; and 2) that her husband was a nut capable of such a thing because of his past history attempting to kill Walker.

The king of BS is at it again;

Marina checked the blanket because she suspected at best (not knew) that Oswald possessed a rifle and kept it in a blanket. The only way she could have known for sure is if she asked Oswald if that rifle in the blanket was his. She never did!

And it is highly questionable if the Walker tale, the way we know it today, is true and correct. General Walker certainly didn't believe it was. When he saw the bullet the HSCA was trying to pass off as the bullet taken from the wall of his house (a bullet that would fit the MC rifle) he went so far as to instruct his lawyer to inform that HSCA that there had been a switch of bullets, because the one the HSCA had was in no way the same as the one Walker saw, after it was taken out of his wall. Besides, all the descriptions of the so-called Walker bullet, prior to the assassination, indicate a completely different bullet as well.

[Richard Smith]

Nope, there is zero evidence she left the couch to check anything.*)

Marina said.... ROFL

Your endless circular BS.

*) and the blanket had been moved, contrary to what she claimed.

To summarize.  Marina confirmed that upon being told by Ruth Paine that the shots were fired from her husband's place of employment, she went to check the blanket because she knew that is where he kept his rifle.  There has been zero evidence or even a reason articulated as to why she would lie about this.  Not even an attempt to explain this allegation.  And Marina's testimony is supported by her confirmation, in front of other witnesses, just a short time later when she directed the police to the blanket when asked about the rifle.  What is relevant is what she told Marina (i.e. that the shots were fired from the building in which her husband worked).  The pedantic debate about whether Ruth Paine could have known this with certainty is immensely amusing for its attempt at false deflection.  And, of course, Ruth Paine would have an obvious reason to tell Marina that the shots had been fired from the building that LHO worked in since the news reports indicated they came from the Texas School Book Depository and Paine knew Oswald worked for that company. 

[Richard Smith]

After learning this, Marina then checks the blanket for a rifle.  The only explanation for that action is that 1) she knew her husband possessed a rifle and kept it in that blanket; and 2) that her husband was a nut capable of such a thing because of his past history attempting to kill Walker.

The king of BS is at it again;

Marina checked the blanket because she suspected at best (not knew) that Oswald possessed a rifle and kept it in a blanket. The only way she could have known for sure is if she asked Oswald if that rifle in the blanket was his. She never did!

And it is highly questionable if the Walker tale, the way we know it today, is true and correct. General Walker certainly didn't believe it was. When he saw the bullet the HSCA was trying to pass off as the bullet taken from the wall of his house (a bullet that would fit the MC rifle) he went so far as to instruct his lawyer to inform that HSCA that there had been a switch of bullets, because the one the HSCA had was in no way the same as the one Walker saw, after it was taken out of his wall. Besides, all the descriptions of the so-called Walker bullet, prior to the assassination, indicate a completely different bullet as well.

Good grief.  Of course Walker's testimony is evidence.  Just like Marina's testimony is evidence.  It should be taken into account and weighed in the totality of evidence and circumstances.   Marina's testimony that she checked the blanket because she knew Oswald kept his rifle there is consistent with her actions taken shortly thereafter when she directed the police to the blanket when asked about the rifle.  It is consistent with her testimony that she had seen the rifle in the blanket.  How does someone "suspect" that a rifle is in a blanket in the garage?  What does that even mean?  LOL.  She confirmed multiple times in her testimony that she saw a rifle in the blanket.   There is no ambiguity on this point.  She did not "assume" or "suspect" it was there as you falsely suggest.  She testified that she saw the rifle in the blanket.  She knew Oswald had kept it there and fully expected the police to find it.  It was only not there because Oswald had removed it to assassinate JFK.

[Martin Weidmann]

Good grief.  Of course Walker's testimony is evidence.  Just like Marina's testimony is evidence.  It should be taken into account and weighed in the totality of evidence and circumstances.   Marina's testimony that she checked the blanket because she knew Oswald kept his rifle there is consistent with her actions taken shortly thereafter when she directed the police to the blanket when asked about the rifle.  It is consistent with her testimony that she had seen the rifle in the blanket.  How does someone "suspect" that a rifle is in a blanket in the garage?  What does that even mean?  LOL.  She confirmed multiple times in her testimony that she saw a rifle in the blanket.   There is no ambiguity on this point.  She did not "assume" or "suspect" it was there as you falsely suggest.  She testified that she saw the rifle in the blanket.  She knew Oswald had kept it there and fully expected the police to find it.  It was only not there because Oswald had removed it to assassinate JFK.

Good grief.  Of course Walker's testimony is evidence.

Nobody said it wasn't. You need to pay more attention! But Walker could only tell the WC that some person unknown took a shot at him on April 10th.

Marina's testimony that she checked the blanket because she knew Oswald kept his rifle there is consistent with her actions taken shortly thereafter when she directed the police to the blanket when asked about the rifle.

Really? It is equally consistent with her simply assuming that it was Oswald's rifle.

How does someone "suspect" that a rifle is in a blanket in the garage?  What does that even mean?

Sometimes I truly wonder whether you have a reading comprehension problem. What I said was that Marina suspected that the rifle in the blanket belonged to Lee.

She did not "assume" or "suspect" it was there as you falsely suggest. 

I never suggested anything of the kind. Please do yourself a favor and learn to read correctly before you embarrass yourself even more.

She knew Oswald had kept it there and fully expected the police to find it.

How exactly did she know? Did she ask Lee if that was his rifle? No, she didn't. So, how did she know?

You do understand the difference between knowing and assuming, right?