Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar

[Jerry Freeman]

Why did Michael Paine leave work and head to Irving before he had even heard about the shooting?
He lived in Grand Prairie.
Also, the police stated that "he didn't seem all that surprised at what had happened"."

[Paul J Cummings]

Even Kennedy said to Jackie where heading to nutsville. Given the atmosphere in Dallas in the fall of 1963 I believe that's why Michael Paine wasn't surprised.

Why did Michael Paine leave work and head to Irving before he had even heard about the shooting?
He lived in Grand Prairie.
Also, the police stated that "he didn't seem all that surprised at what had happened"."

[Walt Cakebread]

Even Kennedy said to Jackie where heading to nutsville. Given the atmosphere in Dallas in the fall of 1963 I believe that's why Michael Paine wasn't surprised.

Kennedy said to Jackie where heading to nutsville.

Yes, they were heading into LBJ country.... JFK knew the atmosphere was unstable and vile....  But he didn't appreciate just how corrupt and vile ..... 

[Richard Smith]

Kennedy said to Jackie where heading to nutsville.

Yes, they were heading into LBJ country.... JFK knew the atmosphere was unstable and vile....  But he didn't appreciate just how corrupt and vile .....

And then he was shot by a leftist Commie.  Oh the irony.

[Walt Cakebread]

And then he was shot by a leftist Commie.  Oh the irony.

If you truly believe that ....You need the help of a good psychiatrist 

[Steve M. Galbraith]

And then he was shot by a leftist Commie.  Oh the irony.

Even more ironic, Oswald put into power a president who was one of if not the most liberal president in US history. The first thing LBJ did as president - the first - was push for passage of the civil rights bill, something the far right in Dallas hated JFK for pushing.

Then he passed the "Great Society" legislation - civil rights, housing rights, voting rights, poverty programs - all of this vehemently opposed by the Bircher right. Even more, LBJ essentially ended the covert war on Cuba - Operation Mongoose. All of that nonsense was pushed by the Kennedys and RFK stopped advocating for it.

So these far right wingers killed JFK because he was too liberal on civil rights and too soft on Castro. Then they put into power a president who was even more liberal on civil rights and softer on Castro. Irony of ironies.

The conspiracy believers - the Oliver Stones and others - never mention all of this. For them it's all about Vietnam. Well, LBJ didn't send in troops there until late 1965 after the South Vietnamese government essentially fell apart and Hanoi and Moscow stepped up its aggression.

Part of the problem reasoning with these conspiracists is trying to straighten out their bizarre conspiracy history. They believe things that are simply not true.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

If you truly believe that ....You need the help of a good psychiatrist

Tell us all again the story about them giving JFK a Stetson hat in Ft. Worth so that it would be easier for the snipers to shoot JFK in Dallas? Forget about the red rings, I already know about that one. Tell us about the hat.

Right, someone needs help here. I do agree with you on that one.

[Walt Cakebread]

Even more ironic, Oswald put into power a president who was one of if not the most liberal president in US history. The first thing LBJ did as president - the first - was push for passage of the civil rights bill, something the far right in Dallas hated JFK for pushing.

Then he passed the "Great Society" legislation - civil rights, housing rights, voting rights, poverty programs - all of this vehemently opposed by the Bircher right. Even more, LBJ essentially ended the covert war on Cuba - Operation Mongoose. All of that nonsense was pushed by the Kennedys and RFK stopped advocating for it.

So these far right wingers killed JFK because he was too liberal on civil rights and too soft on Castro. Then they put into power a president who was even more liberal on civil rights and softer on Castro. Irony of ironies.

The conspiracy believers - the Oliver Stones and others - never mention all of this. For them it's all about Vietnam. Well, LBJ didn't send in troops there until late 1965 after the South Vietnamese government essentially fell apart and Hanoi and Moscow stepped up its aggression.

Part of the problem reasoning with these conspiracists is trying to straighten out their bizarre conspiracy history. They believe things that are simply not true.

For people like LBJ.....politics came secondary to personal lust......He lusted for the presidency and the Texas oil tycoons wanted JFK out of their way ( the oil depletion allowance)   LBJ knew that JFK was going to dump him as vice presidential running mate  in 64, and that would have been the end of his political life.