Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242

[Chris Bristow]

Chaney's hand and fingers could possible correctly proportioned to Roy Kellerman's right arm if Chaney was twenty five or thirty feet away from Kellerman....  Chaney's hand would appear much smaller ( compared to Kellerman's arm) if he was 25 or 30 feet to the rear of Kellerman.

That is a tough judgement call comparing Kellerman's arm. Check out JFK's Left hand. He must have been making a really tight fist because his knuckes are so white you can see each one clearly. Compare Chaney's hand to JFK and Chaney's hand looks smaller.

[Chris Bristow]

I think so but people who disagree don't accept the Z film as real. It may well be faked in part, this part, who knows.

[Robin Unger]

Brian there is a red light that appears in 242 on the left side of the sprocket hole. That is likely Chaneys left from red light

Yes that was the whole point of me starting this thread, look at my first post.

The red light on the left side of Chaney's motorcycle seen  in Zapruder frame Z-242 
it was first pointed out to me by Jerry Organ

[Chris Davidson]

The overhead is from June 24, 1964.
The Stemmons Sign had been removed.
The 5th set of lane markers from the east end of Elm appear to match the plotted lane markers.
Moving (JFK within the limo) along the LOS connecting Altgens, the lane marker and the horizontal structure (white in color) = a range from extant z250-z255 to match Altgen's 6.

[Robin Unger]

Chaney's position as he proceeded down Elm st.

Riding the white lane markers, and his front tire was just in front of the queen mary in the gap between the rear of the Limo, and the front of the follow up car.

The Alterationists can not prove my observations wrong, despite all their lip flapping and the pages and pages of TEXT.

[Robin Unger]

The overhead is from June 24, 1964.
The Stemmons Sign had been removed.
The 5th set of lane markers from the east end of Elm appear to match the plotted lane markers.
Moving (JFK within the limo) along the LOS connecting Altgens, the lane marker and the horizontal structure (white in color) = a range from extant z250-z255 to match Altgen's 6.

When i first started to try to match Altgens 6 to a Zapruder frame.

I would open up a large version of Altgens 6, and then go to the Zapruder frames and look for.

(1)-the position of JFK's head, arms and hands.
(2)-the position of Jackies head,arms and white gloves
(3)-the position of connally's head and shoulder during the head turn
(4)-the position and shape of the stars and stripes flag on the front of the limo

My opinion Z-255, but i did also look at Z-254 for a long time

[Chris Bristow]

Robin I accept your original argument but proving it through Altgens 6 alone is it's own puzzle, which is fascinating to explore. If the Z film was accepted it would also prove Chaney was not where they say he is cause he obviously is not there in z255.

[Robin Unger]

Robin I accept your original argument but proving it through Altgens 6 alone is it's own puzzle, which is fascinating to explore. If the Z film was accepted it would also prove Chaney was not where they say he is cause he obviously is not there in z255.

Thanks Chris

Their rationale for Chaney not appearing in Z-255 is that someone somewhere altered the frames to REMOVE Chaney.

I would ask them these question:

Why on earth would anybody want  to Remove Chaney from the Z-film ?

If Z-255 how many other frames was Chaney excised from ?

Why wasn't Chaney excised from Altgens 6 ?

Why wasn't Chaney's motorcycles reflection taken off the back of the limo in Z-255

Some clean up operation, who was running the "Operation Remove Channey" the 3-stooges

Inquiring minds want to know .