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Offline Robin Unger

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #288 on: October 19, 2018, 05:46:41 PM »
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I simply cannot see any damage to JFK's head in the Moorman photo.....And I don't believe the Moorman photo was taken at Z 315, because Patrolman Billy Martin's left hand is seen in the Moorman photo ...And he's not even visible in Z 315.

Ome frame after Moorman and we see Martin in  Z-316
he is in the same position as he was one frame earlier. at Z-315




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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #289 on: October 19, 2018, 07:33:30 PM »
  I don't believe the Moorman photo was taken at Z 315 ................
I don't either. This is Z-311......


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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #290 on: October 19, 2018, 07:39:34 PM »
I don't either. This is Z-311......


He was not face down. All you have to do is use common sense, and read what Clint Hill said during his testimony.   He said when he got on top of the car, the president was "face up" in her lap. Mrs. Kennedy cradled his head and talked about his face from the forehead down being "so beautiful" during that interview, and how there was nothing missing from his forehead or his face.  The only portion of the head she described as being gone was the top. Nothing else. And if you think she would have allowed her husband to lie face down--which would inhibit his breathing--you have another thing coming.  This is typical, though.  You completely ignore the things the person who is holding his shattered head in her hands, yet totally rely on the man "hovering over him" and Mrs. Kennedy, both.  I also find it  difficult to believe that Hill saw as much as what he said he saw, due to the fact that Mrs. Kennedy covered his head during the ride to the hospital , and with his head "face-up in her lap".

Z 311 is very close to the same time as Altgens #6.....  The occupants of the Lincoln are very similar to the positions  they were in when Altgens snapped #6.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #291 on: October 19, 2018, 08:16:31 PM »
Z 311 is very close to the same time as Altgens #6.....  The occupants of the Lincoln are very similar to the positions  they were in when Altgens snapped #6.

Not Connally.


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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #292 on: October 19, 2018, 08:20:20 PM »
Not Connally.

Connally's head is turned slightly to the right in Z 311 when compared to Altgen's #6 ....   Do you see something different?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #293 on: October 19, 2018, 08:23:50 PM »
Yes, I see Connally starting to lean back onto his wife.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #294 on: October 19, 2018, 08:24:14 PM »
I don't either. This is Z-311......




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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #295 on: October 19, 2018, 08:27:08 PM »
Yes, I see Connally starting to lean back onto his wife.

 :-X

Is this going to be another one of those "here's what I think I see in the Zapruder film" arguments?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #295 on: October 19, 2018, 08:27:08 PM »