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Offline Bill Brown

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I realize it is entirely futile to engage with you in a substantive discussion, but your question is one that reasonable people would already know the answer too.  Oswald was undoubtedly "seen" by some unknown number of people as he made his way to the bus.  None of these people, however, would have had any cause to notice or remember him.  He is just another pedestrian on the street of a major city.  And if they had, you would dismiss them as potentially part of the frame up (like anyone who places Oswald on the bus or in the cab).

Indeed.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Sure sounds like Oswald, was looking for employment which we know he was, spoke in a foreign language on the phone like later at the rooming house, he would seclude himself in his room like much of the time later at the rooming house and rarely made conservation.
So what? Are these the 'details' you referred to earlier? They were not made on the day after affidavit they were made nearly a year after.
55 years later and no one can still seem to put the icing on the cake. If a 60 something year old Mary Bledsoe could hear the Tippit gun shots where she lived [google map 621 N Marsalis] that would would mean that everyone must have heard the shots in a one mile radius and that just didn't happen. So can we say 'exaggerate'? Or just plain fibbing?
 

Offline John Mytton

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So what? Are these the 'details' you referred to earlier? They were not made on the day after affidavit they were made nearly a year after.
55 years later and no one can still seem to put the icing on the cake. If a 60 something year old Mary Bledsoe could hear the Tippit gun shots where she lived [google map 621 N Marsalis] that would would mean that everyone must have heard the shots in a one mile radius and that just didn't happen. So can we say 'exaggerate'? Or just plain fibbing?
 

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So what?

Bledsoe perfectly described Oswald's behaviour that was confirmed by others.

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Are these the 'details' you referred to earlier?

No, the "details" were in her 23/11/63 affidavit which I referred to on numerous occasions as the "day after affidavit" and I even linked to it.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bledsoe1.htm

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They were not made on the day after affidavit they were made nearly a year after.

Yes, as your text and the affidavit itself shows.

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55 years later and no one can still seem to put the icing on the cake.

No, on the first day there was enough evidence to charge Oswald with murder and by the end of the weekend there was a Mountain of Evidence which to this day has stood the test of half a century of intense scrutiny and still you can't present a plausible conspiracy narrative, waiting......  Zzzzzz......

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If a 60 something year old Mary Bledsoe could hear the Tippit gun shots where she lived [google map 621 N Marsalis] that would would mean that everyone must have heard the shots in a one mile radius and that just didn't happen.

I told you a million times to not exaggerate. According to google maps the distance as the crow flies from Bledsoe to Tippit was 0.59 miles and according to McWatters schedule and allowing for the congested but moving traffic on Elm, she could have made it in time to hear the shots. But also consider it was Texas and hearing gunshots, old time cars backfiring, industry or whatever is entirely possible and maybe in all the excitement there was 6 shots or only 5 and ask yourself do you feel lucky, well do ya Punk?

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« Last Edit: October 24, 2018, 08:40:02 AM by John Mytton »

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Offline John Mytton

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What is your point? The WC GUESSED that he left the TSBD at 12:33 as no one saw him doing so. They then GUESSED that he walked 7 blocks to catch a bus as no one saw this either.

Much credit to the "silly conspirators" that they can pass GUESSES off as facts and have some people believe them.

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What is your point?

The fact that Oswald got into a car 10 minutes after the assassination and 5 minutes before he had to go back to work can only mean that in your scenario the Rambler was a getaway car which in the end was no different to Oswald's getaway bus.

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The WC GUESSED that he left the TSBD at 12:33 as no one saw him doing so.

And according to your timeline Oswald was waiting till 12:40 then sped off in a car, a classic flight from the crime scene.

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They then GUESSED that he walked 7 blocks to catch a bus as no one saw this either.

Yawn, learn the evidence. Oswald had McWatters Bus Transfer.

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Much credit to the "silly conspirators" that they can pass GUESSES off as facts and have some people believe them.

Exactly you just shat on your own argument, your "silly conspirators" could have had dozens of people who saw Oswald in the sniper's nest, saw Oswald leave the building, saw Oswald on the bus, saw Oswald get in and out of a taxi and so on but those "silly conspirators" just relied on stuff to happen. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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Offline John Mytton

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I was wondering the same thing, Brian.

There's a big difference between being unseen and being seen but not remembered.

Kooks like Caprio won't understand that, of course.

Sure if you stop and interact with someone or they're acting suspicious or a drop dead beauty walks past then you might remember but otherwise we're all just another random unmemorable face in the crowd.



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« Last Edit: October 24, 2018, 08:35:47 AM by John Mytton »

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Frazier never admitted that he could have been mistaken about the manner in which Oswald carried the package.

At the mock trial, Bugs asked him a hypothetical question. He wanted to know (and I am paraphrazing) whether Frazier, walking behind Oswald, would have been able to see the package if it had protruded out. Frazier answered honestly that he could not have seen that, which is a far cry from admitting that he could have been mistaken about the way Oswald carried the package!
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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Frazier never admitted that he could have been mistaken about the manner in which Oswald carried the package.

At the mock trial, Bugs asked him a hypothetical question. He wanted to know (and I am paraphrazing) whether Frazier, walking behind Oswald, would have been able to see the package if it had protruded out. Frazier answered honestly that he could not have seen that, which is a far cry from admitting that he could have been mistaken about the way Oswald carried the package!

If the rifle had been "cupped" in Oswald's hand, it couldn't have been protruding. It would have fallen forward onto the ground.

Offline Rob Caprio

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As soon as you can produce an eyewitness who I didn't mention above, who saw Oswald on Jefferson then we can move on.

JohnM

Changing the subject won't work. I didn't mention Jefferson in the OP. You've got no witness or supporting evidence for the WC's claim. Got it.

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