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Offline Jack Trojan

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Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« on: November 24, 2018, 09:34:06 PM »
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The fingerprint evidence against Oswald is a joke. But it is more than that, it is evidence of conspiracy. In all 3 cases where Oswald's prints showed up, they were sorely lacking in frequency considering how much he had supposedly handled those items. The FBI, SS and Dallas Police really dropped the ball on their sheep-dipping of Oswald. They got him to pose for pics in his backyard with the murder weapons but they didn't sight in his scope or get more of his prints on the rifle, the bag and the boxes.

Tell me how it is possible to leave so few prints on the following items (without wearing gloves)?

Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence

The Bag

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Latona developed a latent palmprint on the bottom of the bag, the part that was closed. The palmprint was of LHO's heel of his right palm near the wrist on the little finger side. And he developed a fingerprint that matched the left index finger of LHO. There was no other identifiable prints found on the bag per the report.

Summary: LHO allegedly handled the bag and put the disassembled rifle into it, wonky scope included, carried it into the TSBD, then handled the bag while removing the rifle parts from it, and the only prints he got on the bag were a right palm print and his left pinky fingerprint. How was that possible?

The Boxes

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Box A, CE641, is the top smaller box of the stack of two. It had the left Palm Print of LHO.
Box B, CE653, is the box that is leaning on the windowsill. It had 7 fingerprints and 2 palmprints. None of the identifiable prints on Box B were Oswald's. All but one of the prints belonged to either Studebaker or Lucy. The WC noted there was one palmprint on Box B that was not matched.
Box C, CE654, is the bottom larger box of the stack of two. It had 2 fingerprints that were identifiable and 1 palmprint. All of these prints were either Studebaker's or Lucy's.
Box D, CE648, is the large box away from the window. It had the right Palm Print of LHO. Box D had 2 fingerprints, both of which belong to Lucy and the right palmprint of LHO.

Summary: LHO left 1 left palm print on Box A, 1 right palm print on Box D, far fewer prints than Studebaker or Lucy.


The Rifle

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Latona found no prints on the MC during his examination. However, Lt. Day testified that before he had turned the rifle over on Nov. 22, 1963 he "had lifted" a palmprint from the underside of the gun barrel "near the firing end of the barrel about 3 inches under the woodstock when I took the woodstock loose" However, Day did not send this to the FBI until November 26, when he received instructions to send "everything that we had" to the FBI. The print arrived in the FBI Laboratory in Washington on November 29, mounted on a card on which Lieutenant Day had written the words "off underside gun barrel near end of grip C2766." C2766 was the identification number given to the MC rifle found on the sixth floor of the depository.

Summary: LHO had no prints on the MC's barrel, bolt, trigger, stock, clip, ammo, scope and strap even though he supposedly disassembled/reassembled and fired the rifle. The only print of LHO on the rifle was put there post-mortem by the FBI. Just ask Paul Groody.


Conclusion: Oswald never fired the rifle.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2018, 02:09:39 AM by Jack Trojan »

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Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« on: November 24, 2018, 09:34:06 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 12:06:45 AM »
The fingerprint evidence against Oswald is a joke. But it is more than that, it is evidence of conspiracy. In all 3 cases where Oswald's prints showed up, they were sorely lacking in frequency considering how much he had supposedly handled those items. The FBI, SS and Dallas Police really dropped the ball on their sheep-dipping of Oswald. They got him to pose for pics in his backyard with the murder weapons but they didn't sight in his scope or get more of his prints on the rifle, the bag and the boxes.

Tell me how it is possible to leave so few prints on the following items (without wearing gloves)?

Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence

The Bag

Summary: LHO allegedly manhandled the bag and put the disassembled rifle into it, wonky scope included, carried it into the TSBD, then manhandled the bag while removing the rifle parts from it, and the only prints he got on the bag were a right palm print and his left pinky fingerprint. How was that possible?

The Boxes

Summary: LHO left 1 left palm print on Box A, 1 right palm print on Box D, far fewer prints than Studebaker or Lucy.


The Rifle

Summary: LHO had no prints on the MC's barrel, bolt, trigger, stock, clip, ammo, scope and strap even though he supposedly disassembled/reassembled and fired the rifle. The only print of LHO on the rifle was put there post-mortem by the FBI. Just ask Paul Groody.


Conclusion: Oswald never fired the rifle.

Not that you're exaggerating by claiming he 'manhandled' the items.

Read a book and find that usuable prints are hard to find at the best of times, the stock was too rough to capture few usuable prints if any, and Oswald could have been (inadvertently or otherwise) smearing potential fingerprint evidence simply while in the act of handling the bag and rifle.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2018, 12:10:29 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2018, 12:27:28 AM »
Read a book and find that usuable prints are hard to find at the best of times, the stock was too rough to capture few usuable prints if any, and Oswald could have been (inadvertently or otherwise) smearing potential fingerprint evidence simply while in the act of handling the bag and rifle.

So you read a book and are now an expert dermatoglyphicist? LOL

Do you actually believe that Oswald disassembled/reassembled the MC, fired it 3 times, ditched it and didn't leave any discernible prints on the stock, trigger, bolt, barrel, ammo, clip, scope and strap? Some expert.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2018, 12:49:13 AM »
So you read a book and are now an expert dermatoglyphicist? LOL

Do you actually believe that Oswald disassembled/reassembled the MC, fired it 3 times, ditched it and didn't leave any discernible prints on the stock, trigger, bolt, barrel, ammo, clip, scope and strap? Some expert.

Where did I claim to be an expert regarding fingerprint evidence? Science informs us that usable fingerprints are hard to find at the best of times.. like I reported in my last post.

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Re: Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2018, 12:56:57 AM »
Given that CT's routinely question every tiny discrepancy regarding evidence against Oswald and exaggerate the importance of such discrepancy, it's entirely acceptable to speculate on Oswald wearing gloves.

In fact in a tradition that CT's will recognise I say Oswald did wear gloves and disposed of them sometime after leaving the TSBD. It makes sense. Obviously Oswald being a cunning shrewd operator gloves would've been one of the first things he thought about in preparation for his act of barbarity.

That's why his dabs are not all over the rifle. He left the SN in close to clean pristine condition.

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Offline Alan Hardaker

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2018, 01:01:43 AM »
And in fact workers who carry and handle cardboard boxes do indeed wear gloves as the cardboard dries out the skin and you end up with sores on the finger and thumb crevices. To avoid this they wear gloves.So there you have it...he wore gloves..problem solved.End of Story.

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2018, 02:01:08 AM »
And in fact workers who carry and handle cardboard boxes do indeed wear gloves as the cardboard dries out the skin and you end up with sores on the finger and thumb crevices. To avoid this they wear gloves.So there you have it...he wore gloves..problem solved.End of Story.

You mean LHO wore gloves and scored 2 hits using a wonky scope on a cheap rifle he had never practiced with before? Why would any military marksman/assassin do that?

ps. The Magic Gloves?
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Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Oswald's Fingerprint Evidence
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2018, 04:34:16 AM »
So you read a book and are now an expert dermatoglyphicist? LOL

Since when were you an expert on fingerprinting?

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