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Offline Paul May

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #112 on: November 30, 2018, 03:18:01 AM »
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In reality it just might take a genius as in 55 years no hard credible evidence has come forward. Believe what you wish but a belief exists when evidence does not.  That?s a fact.

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
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Offline Paul May

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #113 on: November 30, 2018, 03:21:25 AM »
Facts?  You offer one more conspiracy amongst thousands unsupported. Are you claiming what you are offering is indisputable?

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #114 on: November 30, 2018, 03:23:33 AM »
Citation?  I dare you.

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Offline Paul May

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #115 on: November 30, 2018, 03:27:45 AM »
Undeniable evidence? You need to learn what evidence actually is.  This entire thread is a joke.  55 years and the conspiracy ?community? is still pushing this kind of crap.  Remarkable.

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #116 on: November 30, 2018, 12:40:02 PM »
Undeniable evidence? You need to learn what evidence actually is.  This entire thread is a joke.  55 years and the conspiracy ?community? is still pushing this kind of crap.  Remarkable.

Debunk this?  It is hard evidence.  Instead of giving your opinion, give facts and debunk this if you can.

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Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #117 on: November 30, 2018, 07:01:40 PM »
Why don't you post the colorized version of Moorman and we'll take the forum members honest assessment of how exaggerated your perceived human forms are inside the pergola.

How tall is the guy peering out of the top open slat.

Why their heads are twice the size of Zapruders and Sitzmans even though their 12 feet behind them.


A simple eyeball test.

Your colored Moorman photo.

Ok let's not bother the forum members. How about you answering these two questions:

How tall is the guy peering out of the top open slat?

Why their heads are twice the size of Zapruders and Sitzmans even though their 12 feet behind them?

The reason I'm asking is because you've done all the research and all. I know you must have the original specs of the pergolas to answer these buzzing gnat type questions.

Then after you swat away these questions with your facts explain how in the Betzner and Willis photos taken seconds before your colorized photo there isn't a hint of any human in that pavilion. Just looking to see if you have any clue as to how they got in there and where they came from.

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #118 on: November 30, 2018, 08:11:52 PM »
    The colorized Moorman Pic is Leroy Blevins work & His theory as to the positioning of shooters inside the shelter behind Zapruder.  Blevins has been pushing his Shelter Shooters theory for better than 2 years that I know of. Recently, he has added to his Shelter Shooters by claiming the Babushka Woman is actually Zapruder's wife and she gives the shooters inside the shelter the "Go" signal by flashing her camera's flash bulb attachment. He also claims that film images reveal Sitzman using her hands to cover Zapruder's ears immediately after the "flash/go" signal is given.

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #119 on: November 30, 2018, 08:24:13 PM »
Just want all of you to be aware of the photographic, film, and written testimony evidence that is out there.

Mr. Zapruder's testimony

Mr. LIEBELER - Yes.
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes--after the shots--yes, some of them were motorcycle cops--I guess they left their motorcycles running and they were running right behind me, of course, in the line of the shooting. I guess they thought it came from right behind me.
Mr. LIEBELER - Did you have any impression as to the direction from which these shots came?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - No, I also thought it came from back of me. Of course, you can't tell when something is in line it could come from anywhere, but being I was here and he was hit on this line and he was hit right in the head--I saw it right around here, so it looked like it came from here and it could come from there.
Mr. LIEBELER - All right, as you stood here on the abutment and looked down into Elm Street, you saw the President hit on the right side of the head and you thought perhaps the shots had come from behind you?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Well, yes.
Mr. LIEBELER - From the direction behind you?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes, actually--I couldn't say what I thought at the moment, where they came from--after the impact of the tragedy was really what I saw and I started and I said--yelling, "They've killed him"--I assumed that they came from there, because as the police started running back of me, it looked like it came from the back of me.
Mr. LIEBELER - But you didn't form any opinion at that time as to what direction the shots did come from actually?
Mr. ZAPRUDER - No.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/zapruder.htm

Testimony Of Abraham Zapruder. The testimony of Abraham Zapruder was taken at 1 p.m., on July 22, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.


https://www.jfk.org/the-collections/abraham-zapruder-film/zapruder-interview-transcript/

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Here is Mr. Bill Newman's testimony:

Q: How many shots did you hear?

A: I heard at least three. I often thought of four, but I can't clearly say there were four shots; I can clearly say there were three.

Q: Do you have any impression as to the direction from which the shots came?

 A: Yes, sir. From the sound of the shots, the report of the rifle or whatever it was, it sounded like they were coming directly behind from where I was standing.

Q: Now would you push the microphone aside and step down to the aerial photograph and identify that general area, just the general area from which the sounds came.

A: In my opinion, the sounds of the shots sounded as if they had come from directly behind me (indicating). I was standing near this light standard here, and I thought the shots were coming from back here, and apparently, everybody else did because they all ran in that direction.

http://www.jfk-online.com/wnewmanshaw.html


Mary Moorman photo - NBC source -



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Look in the shelter, there are people there to the back of Mr. Zapruder.

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Film -
Look at the shelter around the 5-second mark. A shot is fired from the third window and there is another shot fired from the walkway behind Mr. Zapruder and Ms. Sitzman.

Play the video in slow motion, you will see a shot from the third window and a smoke trail from the walkway behind Mr. Zapruder. -

How to view the video is slow motion -
In Mr. Zapruder's original statements, he thought he was in the direct line of fire, the shots came from behind him.
In Mr. Newman's original statements, he thought the shots came from the pergola.

This information is hard to grasp, but there is no denying the truth of photographic and film evidence.  I am not asking you to change your opinion, I just want you to know the truth.



Look in the shelter, there are people there to the back of Mr. Zapruder.

I believe that there is a man behind Zapruder and Sitzman... The man appears to the camera left of Z &S, and he maybe wearing blue jeans and a shirt with the sleeves rolled up on his forearms.....his right side is behind the concrete support for the roof of the structure.   He appears to be wearing sunglasses .... But the photo is so fuzzy and hard to see that I wouldn't bet on the details....  I do not see "people" ( plural) in the area to the rear of Z&S.... 

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Re: Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.
« Reply #119 on: November 30, 2018, 08:24:13 PM »