Proof JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy.

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt,

Maybe so, but that is an opinion of what the gunmen did.  What's if a left-hand rifle was provided, that is opinion as well.  Nobody knows, the only thing that we know, because there is factual evidence, is that shots were fired from the pergola towards JFK.

Keyvan, What has happened in the Lincoln at the 5 second point?    Has Jackie already responded to JFK 's distress?

[Jerry Freeman]

Jerry,  you are injecting your opinions ...Steve,
I don't know, this thread deals with the shots from the pergola toward JFK.  I do however believe that there were multiple shooters, with two being in the pergola.

Keyvan...you are a terrible analyst. You should quit while you are behind.
An opinion would be like this...There are, as you claim  [which is an opinion] two gunmen within the covered pergola. One has a rifle and the other must be standing upon his shoulders with a rifle which they fire at the limo. They escape down a scuttle hole in that pergola corner which they had  dug previously and disguised with a fake concrete lid and tunneled then to a sewer pipe. ---That sir is an opinion and as and silly as it might seem, this is what you seem to propose.
 

[Walt Cakebread]

Keyvan...you are a terrible analyst. You should quit while you are behind.
An opinion would be like this...There are, as you claim  [which is an opinion] two gunmen within the covered pergola. One has a rifle and the other must be standing upon his shoulders with a rifle which they fire at the limo. They escape down a scuttle hole in that pergola corner which they had  dug previously and disguised with a fake concrete lid and tunneled then to a sewer pipe. ---That sir is an opinion and as and silly as it might seem, this is what you seem to propose.

I'd like to support Keyvan....  or any honest student that has logical and rational ideas.... But I agree with you Jerry, Keyvan hasn't thought this through ...

[Nicholas Turner]

You are misleading.  You can't argue with facts.  Why don't you announce to all that you see the shots?  You won't do it, because you have an issue with facts.

I don't have an issue with facts, but what you are claiming are not facts. You have been shown facts which you are ignoring, such as the fact that someone in the position shown in the colourised Moorman image would be unrealistically tall or on a step ladder, that it is not possible to exit the shelter from the rear so any people in there would have had to exit from the front, that there are other white streaks seen in the Nix film. It is you who has the problem with facts and won't discuss or answer any questions asked. You're on your own on this one and I will leave you to your beliefs now rather than waste anymore of my time.

[Royell Storing]

Keyvan, What has happened in the Lincoln at the 5 second point?    Has Jackie already responded to JFK 's distress?

    He borrowed the bulk of this Hokum from Blevins without doing his own research to verify the Blevins  Now he looks ridiculous trying to defend an utterly nonsensical scenario. Unless Zapruder and Sitzman are in on this half baked scheme, it immediately goes the banana peel route.

[Keyvan Shahrdar]

Keyvan...you are a terrible analyst. You should quit while you are behind.
An opinion would be like this...There are, as you claim  [which is an opinion] two gunmen within the covered pergola. One has a rifle and the other must be standing upon his shoulders with a rifle which they fire at the limo. They escape down a scuttle hole in that pergola corner which they had  dug previously and disguised with a fake concrete lid and tunneled then to a sewer pipe. ---That sir is an opinion and as and silly as it might seem, this is what you seem to propose.

Jerry, you are starting a theory all by yourself.  Look at the evidence.  It is there.  Two shots seen by the Nix Film from the pergola that is undeniable except by those who refuse to see it.

The evidence is evidence, the fact is fact.  I showed you the evidence and the facts without an interpretation.  If you choose not to see it, that's on you.

[Keyvan Shahrdar]

I don't have an issue with facts, but what you are claiming are not facts. You have been shown facts which you are ignoring, such as the fact that someone in the position shown in the colourised Moorman image would be unrealistically tall or on a step ladder, that it is not possible to exit the shelter from the rear so any people in there would have had to exit from the front, that there are other white streaks seen in the Nix film. It is you who has the problem with facts and won't discuss or answer any questions asked. You're on your own on this one and I will leave you to your beliefs now rather than waste anymore of my time.

Fact is fact, you want to change facts to fit your narrative.  Who knows what happened where we cannot see.  I doubt that there is a person that is 9'6", but the facts are facts, there are shots from the third window and then there is a shot from the breezeway.  You can't change those facts.

[Keyvan Shahrdar]

    He borrowed the bulk of this Hokum from Blevins without doing his own research to verify the Blevins  Now he looks ridiculous trying to defend an utterly nonsensical scenario. Unless Zapruder and Sitzman are in on this half baked scheme, it immediately goes the banana peel route.

Blah, blah, blah...  Facts are facts, you cannot change facts to fit your narrative.  Get used to facts.