Bill Shelley on Steps

[Thomas Graves]

I believe you are right, Mr Graves, and I happily concede the point! 

So------that teeny-tiny sliver of skirt that comes into view contains enough information for you to see the pattern of Ms Calvery's skirt?





Are you being serious?

Alan,

You ask, "Are you being serious?"

I retort, "Have you had your eyes checked within the last ten years, Alan?"

-- Tommy 

PS  Got any relatively good-resolution, cropped blow-ups of the subject matter in question, or only this fleeting, moving, hard-to-focus-in-on-so-quickly one (the Darnell gif?

[Alan Ford]

Ms Gloria Calvery could be pretty much anywhere at the time Darnell is filming the front steps.

For instance, this could be her, some 25 seconds after the shooting, in a spot very close to where she had been for that shooting:



No reason this can't be her. At least we can see more than a flickering sliver of this woman's skirt, and it fits what we see in Zapruder.

No reason either she can't be lost in the crowd elsewhere!

What counts is that Mr Molina's testimony explicitly rules out her loud arrival at the Depository entrance before Mr Roy Truly's 

[Alan Ford]

Alan,

You ask, "Are you being serious?"

I retort, "Have you had your eyes checked within the last ten years, Alan?"

-- Tommy 

I wish I had your eyesight, Mr Graves-------------why, it's so sharp you can see things that aren't even there! 

[Thomas Graves]

Ms Gloria Calvery could be pretty much anywhere at the time Darnell is filming the front steps.

For instance, this could be her, some 25 seconds after the shooting, in a spot very close to where she had been for that shooting:



No reason this can't be her. At least we can see more than a flickering sliver of this woman's skirt, and it fits what we see in Zapruder.

No reason either she can't be lost in the crowd elsewhere!

What counts is that Mr Molina's testimony explicitly rules out her loud arrival at the Depository entrance before Mr Roy Truly's 

Alan,

So, you simply can't ken Calvery's bulk, height, black blouse (meeting her neutral-colored skirt in exactly the same way), her black head scarf, the same dark horizontal line in her skirt, and the "synchronicity"-if-you-will of her all-in-white colleague's just happening to be there ... next to her?  In Darnell, I mean?

And you STILL haven't found that blown-up Willis 5 at the EF, have you.

-- Tommy

[Alan Ford]

Alan,

So, you simply can't ken Calvery's bulk, height, black blouse (meeting her neutral-colored skirt in exactly the same way), her black head scarf, the same dark horizontal line in her skirt, and the "synchronicity"-if-you-will of her all-in-white colleague's just happening to be there ... next to her?  In Darnell, I mean?

-- Tommy

We don't know that's her colleague, Mr Graves!

[Alan Ford]

And you STILL haven't found that blown-up Willis 5 at the EF, have you.

-- Tommy

Willis 5? Irrelevant!

[Thomas Graves]

I wish I had your eyesight, Mr Graves-------------why, it's so sharp you can see things that aren't even there! 

Alan,

With all due respect, speaking of my alleged lack of visual acuity (or my overly fanciful imagination - lol), maybe you should ask Forum-member Robert Prudhome to tell you how I spotted, on a EF thread, the partial silhouette of a woman's face only just "peeking out" from behind the head of another woman in Altgens 6, and how I had to tell him exactly how to look for it in order to "discover" it / "see" it (the partial outline of her face, that is) ...

-- Tommy 

PS  If you were only a little more open-minded, I could probably help even you to see the obviously bold, dark (but fuzzy in the poor resolution Darnell frames at that distance) horizontal stripe in that (non-trending-upward-on-the-right) sliver of Calvery's skirt -- but not in a GIF, dude, in a blown-up, non-moving frame.

(But then again, seein' as how you couldn't even "see" the photo I was referring you to that Clive Largey had posted on page 5 of Prudhome's EF thread, probably not ...)

LOL