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Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2018, 10:24:19 PM »
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Why do you guys need all these computer generated aids?

When the sitting president of the US himself said it was BS?

The bullet damage? hell, we cant even get that far
The MB stops at JFK's 3rd Thoracic and cannot continue
UP to jfk's throat through his spinal column and miraculously out a perfect round hole THEN THINGS GET CRAZY.

If that was an exit wound (having smashed through the spinal column and trachea) in the throat it would have been "blasted out" around the size of a golf ball.JFK would have died instantly and the bullet would have lost all inertia.How would the bullet look? There would not be much left of it.
I could go on all day with simple logic.

If you believe this nonsense you are brain dead yourself

Forget Kennedy we need a de-fib in here for you - stat.

You can't sell this rubbish, hell you can't give it away

this donkey is dead.

Im calling it. Time of death. 5.51pm EST some 2 minutes ago...

RIP
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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2018, 10:24:19 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2018, 11:14:34 PM »
The best anyone can do is to say that the SBT is possible, and then only if a whole bunch of assumptions are made that cannot actually be demonstrated:

- that JFK's shirt and coat bunched up an equal amount
- that the back wound was not really at the 3rd thoracic vertebra
- that Connally was moved over far enough to the left that his butt was halfway off the jump seat
- that Nellie was mistaken about the president being hit first
- that the shot originated from the 6th floor SE window of the TSBD at about Z223-4
- that Connally had a "delayed" physical reaction to being shot

Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2018, 11:19:46 PM »
I believe they were hit simultaneously but Kennedy from the front

and Connolly from behind

For me the GC back wound is evidence of how a normal bullet reacts
The JFK back shot reacted in much the same way (perhaps an inch or 2 higher up)
but was stopped by striking the strong Vertebrae bones
thats why the wound was so shallow

there is so much evidence to support the neck shot as a  "wound of entry"

I'm sorry I must disagree - for me it is impossible

impossible?

yeah impossible.

bullets do deviate
bullets do not deviate near 90 degree's
when bullets hit bone the bone breaks
It's not steel plate.It's bone.


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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2018, 12:37:04 AM »

   Dr Humes did Not buy into the hokum of CE399. Why? (1) He knew how much lead was removed from JFK  + how much remained inside Connally. This was Far more lead than was missing from CE399, and (2) Humes stunned utterance of "Surgery to the head" when he initially eyeballed the body of JFK. He knew the body of JFK had already been picked clean.

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2018, 02:04:48 AM »
Since the jacket has been shown to have bunched up -- and the shirt had a similar pattern of displacement, as the bullet holes in the jacket and shirt demonstrate -- then the shirt must have been bunched up. The shirt being lighter material, it was probably bunched up near the shirt collar in a series of wrinkles. The jacket was of denser material and bunched up in a single bunch.


The shirt being lighter material, it was probably bunched up near the shirt collar in a series of wrinkles.


And yet there was only one bullet hole in the shirt.... Go figure!

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2018, 02:35:03 AM »
Mr Kennedy must have had a really crappy tailor.

Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2018, 04:03:11 AM »
Again with the shirt?

Its irrelevant.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2018, 04:05:01 AM »
Since the jacket has been shown to have bunched up -- and the shirt had a similar pattern of displacement, as the bullet holes in the jacket and shirt demonstrate -- then the shirt must have been bunched up. The shirt being lighter material, it was probably bunched up near the shirt collar in a series of wrinkles. The jacket was of denser material and bunched up in a single bunch.



The sternum (which somewhat resembles a necktie) is clearly below the exit site shown in the line drawing.

Ford thought the initial description (something like above the shoulder) was too vague (sounds to me like it could even be read as a missed shot). Ford convinced the other Commissioners to employ a description that better reflected what was in the autopsy report. Nothing was "moved." It's a little incidental thing that really captured the imagination of the conspiracy-minded.

Anomaly hunters, the lot of them.
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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2018, 04:05:01 AM »