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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2018, 12:37:04 AM »
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   Dr Humes did Not buy into the hokum of CE399. Why? (1) He knew how much lead was removed from JFK  + how much remained inside Connally. This was Far more lead than was missing from CE399, and (2) Humes stunned utterance of "Surgery to the head" when he initially eyeballed the body of JFK. He knew the body of JFK had already been picked clean.

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2018, 02:04:48 AM »
Since the jacket has been shown to have bunched up -- and the shirt had a similar pattern of displacement, as the bullet holes in the jacket and shirt demonstrate -- then the shirt must have been bunched up. The shirt being lighter material, it was probably bunched up near the shirt collar in a series of wrinkles. The jacket was of denser material and bunched up in a single bunch.


The shirt being lighter material, it was probably bunched up near the shirt collar in a series of wrinkles.


And yet there was only one bullet hole in the shirt.... Go figure!

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2018, 02:35:03 AM »
Mr Kennedy must have had a really crappy tailor.

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Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2018, 04:03:11 AM »
Again with the shirt?

Its irrelevant.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2018, 04:05:01 AM »
Since the jacket has been shown to have bunched up -- and the shirt had a similar pattern of displacement, as the bullet holes in the jacket and shirt demonstrate -- then the shirt must have been bunched up. The shirt being lighter material, it was probably bunched up near the shirt collar in a series of wrinkles. The jacket was of denser material and bunched up in a single bunch.



The sternum (which somewhat resembles a necktie) is clearly below the exit site shown in the line drawing.

Ford thought the initial description (something like above the shoulder) was too vague (sounds to me like it could even be read as a missed shot). Ford convinced the other Commissioners to employ a description that better reflected what was in the autopsy report. Nothing was "moved." It's a little incidental thing that really captured the imagination of the conspiracy-minded.

Anomaly hunters, the lot of them.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2018, 04:09:06 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2018, 08:08:05 AM »
the shirt is irrelevant

we know exactly where the wounds were

this is a RED HERRING

you are just trying to muddy the waters

I'm sorry it is crystal clear
« Last Edit: December 22, 2018, 08:18:49 AM by Eddie Haymaker »

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2018, 03:26:57 AM »
Yes, the shirt/jacket bunching proves squat. And the SBF is actually the SBH (Hypothesis) because it is merely a guess and there is NO evidence to support it. Especially the bunching of JFK's clothing.  ::)

Mytton is such a cut and paster who knows squat about ballistics, image analysis and science in general. There is only 1 thing you need to ask yourself and that is at what vertebrae did the MB strike JFK's back and what vertebrae did it exit his throat? How his jacket bunched is totally irrelevant and proves that you don't know what proof means. A scientist you ain't. So what is your answer Mytton? Here's a hint dufus:





So what vertebrae did the MB smash thru? T1/T2?

What vertebrae did they perform the tracheotomy? C6/C7?

Now draw a straight line from the back wound to the throat to see if it lines up with the 6th floor of the TSBD. What was JFK's body orientation to make it work? Was that his actual body orientation? Do they mesh? This is just simple geometry, no ballistics expert required. So what angle did you get? What angle should you have got? Here's a hint dufus:

Get in between 2 lasers pointed at each other as shown below. Line up the lower laser at your throat at approx. C6/C7. Does the high laser strike your back as per the autopsy photo at T1/T2? Or is it where Gerald Ford moved it to?



We will wait for you to post your "proof" that the SBH was even possible, let alone feasible. Otherwise, you need to give up on all this jacket bunching nonsense and use some common sense for a change.

JTrojan

Offline Jim Brunsman

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Re: Was Kennedy's Jacket bunched on Elm Street?
« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2018, 03:43:36 AM »
Never mind the fact that several autopsy witnesses reported Humes' struggles to understand why the BULLET DID NOT TRANSIT THE BODY. These witnesses and the Sibert and O'Neill report state that the end of the wound could be felt while probing this wound. How could this missile be any threat to Connally? Answer is simple and it TOTALLY DESTROYS the imbecilic SBT.


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