O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House

[Walt Cakebread]

You're referring to his brown shirt. I'm referring to the one he had on underneath it.

Oh so you're attempting to sucker some folks into believing that the witnesses were referring to Lee's white undershirt ( tee shirt)

That's really pathetic...Snickerson....it's something an elementary school kid might attempt.   

The witnesses said that the killer was wearing a ( various colors, but most said GRAY)  Jacket with a WHITE shirt beneath the jacket.

And as to your term "his BROWN shirt"...The photos of Lee being dragged from the theater show that the shirt was a tawny GRAY and it most certainly is NOT the vibrant BROWN shirt that was presented as his arrest shirt.

[Tim Nickerson]

Oh so you're attempting to sucker some folks into believing that the witnesses were referring to Lee's white undershirt ( tee shirt)

That's really pathetic...Snickerson....it's something an elementary school kid might attempt.   

The witnesses said that the killer was wearing a ( various colors, but most said GRAY)  Jacket with a WHITE shirt beneath the jacket.

And as to your term "his BROWN shirt"...The photos of Lee being dragged from the theater show that the shirt was a tawny GRAY and it most certainly is NOT the vibrant BROWN shirt that was presented as his arrest shirt.

You claimed that Oswald's shirt was not white. You were wrong.

[Walt Cakebread]

You claimed that Oswald's shirt was not white. You were wrong.

No, I was 100% correct....The witnesses reported that the killer was wearing a WHITE shirt beneath a jacket...They sure as hell were not referring to the man's underwear ( how utterly ridiculous!)

Lee Oswald was NOT wearing a white shirt ....And thank you for making an damned fool of yourself, Tim.

[Jerry Freeman]

Oh really???....  Hmmmm that's weird..The FBI reported the shirt was composed of DARK BLUE, GRAY-BLACK, and ORANGE -YELLOW, fibers.

In what institution could those colors be called WHITE?

Officer Baker described the shirt Oswald was wearing in the TSBD as a brown jacket.
So do I have to go look up that testimony ...AGAIN? Below is a colored photo of the shirt (designated Ce150), clearly showing that there is no stripe or white spots as Whaley claimed.
 
Here below is that thread called Oswald's shirt. CE-151 looks like the dirty shirt that Bledsoe mentions. If she was ever shown CE-151 I am not sure.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,771.msg16387.html#msg16387

[Tim Nickerson]

Officer Baker described the shirt Oswald was wearing in the TSBD as a brown jacket.
So do I have to go look up that testimony ...AGAIN? Below is a colored photo of the shirt (designated Ce150), clearly showing that there is no stripe or white spots as Whaley claimed.
 
Here below is that thread called Oswald's shirt. CE-151 looks like the dirty shirt that Bledsoe mentions. If she was ever shown CE-151 I am not sure.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,771.msg16387.html#msg16387

FBI Agent Bardwell Odum described the shirt that Oswald was wearing as a reddish brown jacket.

[Ray Mitcham]

Ray,

Who were the witnesses who said that he was wearing two jackets? There were some who thought that the shirt he had on looked like a jacket, but I'd never heard of any who said he had two jackets on.

Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. I didn't pay much attention to it right then. But it all came back when I really found out who I had. He was dressed in just ordinary work clothes. It wasn't khaki pants but they were khaki material, blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki. Then he had on a brown shirt with a little silverlike stripe on it and he had on some kind of jacket, I didn't notice very close but I think it was a work jacket that almost matched the pants.

Mr. WHALEY. I am not sure about the pants. I wouldn't be sure of the shirt if it hadn't had that light stripe in it. I just noticed that. 
Mr. BALL. Here is Commission No. 162 which is a gray jacket with zipper. 
Mr. WHALEY. I thank that is the jacket he had on when he rode with me in the cab. 
Mr. BALL. Look something like it?
And here is Commission Exhibit No. 163, does this look like anything he had on? 
Mr. WHALEY. He had this one on or the other one. 
Mr. BALL. That is right. 
Mr. WHALEY. That is what I told you I noticed. I told you about the shirt being open, he had on the two jackets with the open shirt. 

Mr. BALL. Wait a minute, we have got the shirt which you have identified as the rust brown shirt with the gold stripe in it. 
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. 
Mr. BALL. You said that a jacket-- 
Mr. WHALEY. That jacket now it might have been clean, but the jacket he had on looked more the color, you know like a uniform set, but he had this coat here on over that other jacket, I am sure, sir. 
Mr. BALL. This is the blue-gray jacket, heavy blue-gray jacket. 
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. 


Mr. BALL - And that is about seven or eight blocks from the Texas Book Depository Building, isn't it? 
Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, sir. It would be seven, I would say that is seven, it would be about seven blocks. 
Mr. BALL - From there? 
Mr. McWATTERS - From there, yes, sir. 
Mr. BALL - What did the man look like who knocked on your door and got on your bus?
Mr. McWATTERS - Well, I didn't pay any particular attention to him. He was to me just dressed in what I would call work clothes, just some type of little old jacket on, and I didn't pay any particular attention to the man when he got on-
Mr. BALL - Paid his fare, did he?
Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, sir; he just paid his fare and sat down on the second cross seat on the right.

[Oscar Navarro]

Oscar, how did Mrs Bledsoe see a hole in Oswald's shirt when he was, according to witnesses, wearing two jackets?

Witnesses who saw Oswald after the shootings at Dealey Plaza had different descriptions of what Oswald was wearing. Officer Baker (I'm paraphrasing here) assumed he saw Oswald  wearing a light brown jacket but he also said he wasn't paying too much attention to what he was wearing as his attention was to Oswald's face. just 30 to 45 seconds later Mrs. Reid said Oswald was wearing a white T-shirt. A few minutes later Mary Bledsoe identified Oswald as wearing CE-150 as did Whaley a few minutes later. Whaley's description of what Oswald was wearing is confusing as he first states Oswald was wearing a jacket, then another jacket like the one Oswald left behind at the TSBD, and then says Oswald was wearing two jackets. Why anyone would be wearing two jackets on a mild weather day is unreasonable, IMO. I just think Whaley got confused on the jacket issue but he was very perceptive when it came to the bracelet.

[Oscar Navarro]

Lee Oswald the Patsys' shirt CE-150 was composed of the following fibers; "Gray-black, dark blue and orange yellow cotton fibers. The orange-yellow and gray-black cotton fibers were of uniform shade and the dark blue fibers were of three different shades.. All the fibers were mercerized and of substantially uniform degree of twist." WR, page 591

".....Stombaugh found that a tiny tuft of fibers had caught on a jagged edge of the rifle's butt plate where it met the end of the wooden stock, and had adhered to this edge.....Stombaugh described these fibers as "fresh" ........Examination showed that the tuft was composed of six or seven orange- yellow, gray-black, and dark-blue cotton fibers. These fibers were compared with fiibers from the shirt, Commission Exhibit No. 150, which was also composed of orange-yellow, gray-black, and dark-blue cotton fibers. The orange-yellow and gray-black tuft fibers matched the comparable shirt fibers in all observable characteristics, i.e., shade and twist. The three dark-blue fibers matched two of the three shades of the dark-blue shirt fibers, and also matched the dark-blue fibers in degree of twist." WR, page 592


Question for you... Mr Narvarroo ( who lives in a zoo)

It is a fact that Lee went to his room and changed his shirt and trousers at about 1:00PM ....  President Kennedy was murdered at 12:30 PM which was about a half hour prior to Lee's visit to his room to change his clothes...

The FBI claimed the tuft of fibers matched the shirt that Lee Was wearing AT THE THEATER....... They apparently didn't know that Lee had changed his shirt, and they assumed that it was the same shirt that he was wearing at the time the carcano rifle was allegedly being fired at JFK.  They thought that the tuft of fibers would link Lee Oswald to the alleged murder weapon.

But even a addled brained dunce could probably understand that the tuft of fibers should have matched the shirt that Lee had left in the rooming house and NOT the shirt that he was wearing at the time of his arrest....

IF the fibers matched the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was arrested then it's obvious that those fibers got on the butt plate of the carcano AFTER both the rifle and the shirt were in the hands of the police.....

No, it is not a fact Oswald changed his shirt. That is just Oswald's claim on the second day of interrogation. The real facts are that Oswald was identified by two witnesses (Bledsoe and Whaley) as wearing CE-150 before he arrived at the N. Beckley rooming house and that the bus transfer was found on his shirt pocket after his arrest. This indicates that the DPD didn't have to go through the trouble of trying to implicate Oswald by transferring fibers from CE-150 to C2766 so you can scratch one more of your idiotic conspiracy theories from that ever expanding CT file.