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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #104 on: January 16, 2019, 02:42:46 PM »
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FBI Agent Bardwell Odum described the shirt that Oswald was wearing as a reddish brown jacket.
When/where did this happen?

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #105 on: January 16, 2019, 02:49:27 PM »
My Dear Oscar...  It is with deep regret that I'm compelled to deliver to you... bad news.....

Please review  the reports of the witnesses at the scene of the murder of Officer J.D. Tippit,  And also check  the DPD radio description of the man who was wanted for shooting JD Tippit.   

I believe you'll find that the man was wearing a WHITE shirt.....

What color was Lee Oswald's shirt when he was dragged from the theater?

It is with deep regret that I'm compelled to point out that Mr Oswald's shirt was NOT WHITE.....

With deep regret and sympathy...

Walt

Oh, my dear Foghorn Leghorn. You never fail to amuse me with your ramblings. The witnesses at the Tippit shooting were describing the jacket Oswald had on. They gave different versions of the tone but they weren't too far of in the general description. Anyways, the color of the shirt Oswald had on played no role with the DPD when it came to the suspects description and Oswald's subsequent arrest at the TT. All you have to do is check out Julia Postal's testimony of the description of the suspect where she describes the shirt as a brown sports shirt.   

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #106 on: January 16, 2019, 02:55:35 PM »
Witnesses who saw Oswald after the shootings at Dealey Plaza had different descriptions of what Oswald was wearing. Officer Baker (I'm paraphrasing here) assumed he saw Oswald  wearing a light brown jacket but he also said he wasn't paying too much attention to what he was wearing as his attention was to Oswald's face. just 30 to 45 seconds later Mrs. Reid said Oswald was wearing a white T-shirt. A few minutes later Mary Bledsoe identified Oswald as wearing CE-150 as did Whaley a few minutes later. Whaley's description of what Oswald was wearing is confusing as he first states Oswald was wearing a jacket, then another jacket like the one Oswald left behind at the TSBD, and then says Oswald was wearing two jackets. Why anyone would be wearing two jackets on a mild weather day is unreasonable, IMO. I just think Whaley got confused on the jacket issue but he was very perceptive when it came to the bracelet.

So McWatters must have been  mistaken, as well. Whaley did well on the bracelet but not on the jackets. Come Oscar you can do better than that.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #107 on: January 16, 2019, 03:12:16 PM »
Witnesses who saw Oswald after the shootings at Dealey Plaza had different descriptions of what Oswald was wearing. Officer Baker (I'm paraphrasing here) assumed he saw Oswald  wearing a light brown jacket but he also said he wasn't paying too much attention to what he was wearing as his attention was to Oswald's face. just 30 to 45 seconds later Mrs. Reid said Oswald was wearing a white T-shirt. A few minutes later Mary Bledsoe identified Oswald as wearing CE-150 as did Whaley a few minutes later. Whaley's description of what Oswald was wearing is confusing as he first states Oswald was wearing a jacket, then another jacket like the one Oswald left behind at the TSBD, and then says Oswald was wearing two jackets. Why anyone would be wearing two jackets on a mild weather day is unreasonable, IMO. I just think Whaley got confused on the jacket issue but he was very perceptive when it came to the bracelet.

Whaley's description of what Oswald was wearing is confusing as he first states Oswald was wearing a jacket, then another jacket like the one Oswald left behind at the TSBD, and then says Oswald was wearing two jackets. Why anyone would be wearing two jackets on a mild weather day is unreasonable, IMO. I just think Whaley got confused on the jacket issue


I believe that Whaley regretted that he had allowed his bull stuff about carrying a dangerous assassin in his cab, to escalate, and was trying to get recused by making irrational and goofy statements....(He even told the attorney, that any defense attorney could pick his tale apart)

But LBJ's cover up committee desperately needed Whaley's cock-a-manie tale, and they were not going to recuse him.

Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #108 on: January 16, 2019, 03:23:53 PM »
Redundancy ...Bledsoe upon seeing CE-150 stated that 'No No that is not the shirt' Oswald was wearing....but then could somehow identify a hole in the sleeve. How stupid is that?
She said in her statement that she had only glanced at him and then turned away not wanting him to see her. On the other hand, Wes Frazier spent the entire morning meeting with Oswald and driving him to work and then when Frazier was shown that same shirt [CE-150] he was UNABLE TO IDENTIFY IT.  https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10408#relPageId=311&tab=page

You are misrepresenting what Mrs. Bledsoe said.

Mr. BALL - Now, I have got a piece of clothing here, which is marked---
Mrs. BLEDSOE - That is it.
Mr. BALL - Commission Exhibit 150.
Mrs. BLEDSOE - That is it.
Mr. BALL - This is a shirt.
Mrs. BLEDSOE - That is it.

That was in a nutshell Mrs. Bledsoe's description of the shirt Oswald had when he boarded the bus. Her testimony about the description of the shirt begins with describing it as a brown shirt and ends with identifying the hole on the right elbow of the sleeve.

Using Frazier's statement to buttress your misguided argument is also a mistake. Frazier said he was not paying attention to what Oswald was wearing but was sure he was wearing a jacket that morning. It would be unreasonable to expect Frazier to identify what shirt Oswald was wearing since he had a jacket on and Frazier was not paying attention to what Oswald was wearing.

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Offline Oscar Navarro

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #109 on: January 16, 2019, 03:32:59 PM »
Officer Baker described the shirt Oswald was wearing in the TSBD as a brown jacket.
So do I have to go look up that testimony ...AGAIN? Below is a colored photo of the shirt (designated Ce150), clearly showing that there is no stripe or white spots as Whaley claimed.
 
Here below is that thread called Oswald's shirt. CE-151 looks like the dirty shirt that Bledsoe mentions. If she was ever shown CE-151 I am not sure.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,771.msg16387.html#msg16387


Another Jerry misrepresentation of what a witness said. Officer Baker did not say Oswald was wearing a brown jacket. Yes, you should look up Bakers testimony and post it. You also claimed on another post that what Baker described Oswald was wearing as CE-151. Post that too!

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #110 on: January 16, 2019, 03:39:26 PM »
So McWatters must have been  mistaken, as well. Whaley did well on the bracelet but not on the jackets. Come Oscar you can do better than that.

Like I've pointed out, Ray. Relying solely on witness testimony is a mistake. Look at the big picture and corroborating testimony along with the forensic evidence to arrive at a reasonable and sound conclusion.

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #111 on: January 16, 2019, 03:46:42 PM »
Whaley's description of what Oswald was wearing is confusing as he first states Oswald was wearing a jacket, then another jacket like the one Oswald left behind at the TSBD, and then says Oswald was wearing two jackets. Why anyone would be wearing two jackets on a mild weather day is unreasonable, IMO. I just think Whaley got confused on the jacket issue


I believe that Whaley regretted that he had allowed his bull stuff about carrying a dangerous assassin in his cab, to escalate, and was trying to get recused by making irrational and goofy statements....(He even told the attorney, that any defense attorney could pick his tale apart)

But LBJ's cover up committee desperately needed Whaley's cock-a-manie tale, and they were not going to recuse him.

LBJ's cover up committee (as you call it) didn't need Whaley's testimony. It was Whaley who volunteered the information. If it had not been for Whaley LBJCUC would have gone with Oswald's first day of interrogation claim that he took a bus to his rooming house.

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #111 on: January 16, 2019, 03:46:42 PM »