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Offline Eddie Haymaker

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #161 on: January 11, 2019, 02:31:42 AM »
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Jim DiEugenio? Gee, what a shocker!

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #162 on: January 11, 2019, 01:25:16 PM »
Translation...

"I cannot provide testimony (or any document) which shows that the officers literally shook the pages of each book."

And think about the counternarrative being implied here.  For some reason RP and the sinister conspirators fabricate this evidence but for some inexplicable reason don't put it in a place and time where the authorities will find it during the search.  Afterward they stick it in a random book and hope they do.  Quite a plan.  And then they don't mention Walker in the note.   Is that how anyone would go about trying to link Oswald to the Walker shooting?  LOL.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #163 on: January 11, 2019, 03:34:38 PM »
And think about the counternarrative being implied here.  For some reason RP and the sinister conspirators fabricate this evidence but for some inexplicable reason don't put it in a place and time where the authorities will find it during the search.  Afterward they stick it in a random book and hope they do.  Quite a plan.  And then they don't mention Walker in the note.   Is that how anyone would go about trying to link Oswald to the Walker shooting?  LOL.

LOL!...Are you really this naive and obtuse, Mr "Smith"?    I hadn't thought so...But maybe, you really are a simpleton.....

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #164 on: January 11, 2019, 08:50:08 PM »
And think about the counternarrative being implied here.  For some reason RP and the sinister conspirators fabricate this evidence but for some inexplicable reason don't put it in a place and time where the authorities will find it during the search.  Afterward they stick it in a random book and hope they do.  Quite a plan.  And then they don't mention Walker in the note.   Is that how anyone would go about trying to link Oswald to the Walker shooting?  LOL.

Richard, that's just too much common sense for Caprio and Cakebread.  You're going to make their heads explode.  Be careful.

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #165 on: January 11, 2019, 09:29:25 PM »
LOL!...Are you really this naive and obtuse, Mr "Smith"?    I hadn't thought so...But maybe, you really are a simpleton.....

I'm sure you had plenty of substantive rebuttal points to make here but had a good reason for not expressing a single one. 

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #166 on: January 11, 2019, 09:37:30 PM »
Richard, that's just too much common sense for Caprio and Cakebread.  You're going to make their heads explode.  Be careful.
Thoughtful (students of JFK Assassination controversy capable of wiping their own and who are otherwise reasonable
people) posters do have to admit that, although it is 55 years later and the agency is larger now, MOST have never met
a CIA agent or even a former or current CIA employee.

Bill and Richard, the core problem here is neither of you demonstrate reasonable behavior or level of suspicion
in reaction to the unreasonable....too many spooks in the mix!

Ruth's sister was a CIA employee, sister's husband was a AID (a CIA cloaked agency) employee, the Hyde girls' father
William Avery Hyde was recently considered a useful candidate by the CIA, a college friend of both mom and pop
Hyde, who had roomed in NYC in 1930 with the Hyde couple and their two young daughters was later a CIA analyst
reporting to his supervisor Bruce Solie on  his specific contact with Ruth's parents.
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Quixotic Joust: Communists and Anti-Communists Meet Under Ground
quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2014/11/communists-and-anti-communists-meet.html
Nov 10, 2014 - William A. Hyde was in Washington this last week-end, visiting his ... Talbot was reporting to Bruce Solie, of the CIA's Security staff, about a ...
Quixotic Joust: Hyde Family in the CIA and USAID
quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2015/01/hyde-family-and-central-intelligence.html
Jan 5, 2015 - In attempting to determine what role, if any, Ruth Paine's Hyde .... A report by Bruce Solie of the CIA generated on December 5, 1963, stated:
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....and Ruth formed a, and was writing to the State Dept. manager of that sort of intelligence gathering program.:

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https://aarclibrary.org/the-jfk-case-the-twelve-who-built-the-oswald-legend-part-11-the-paines-carry-the-weight/
.....Ruth also worked on an American-Russian student exchange organized by this committee in 1958, taking an active role in making the travel arrangements for the Russian visitors. The Paines told the Warren Commission that Ruth was a prominent committee member, but never addressed who was Ruth?s contact with the State Department to get the travel arrangements done.

I think she had such a contact, and the contact?s probable identity tells us a lot. The Director of East-West Contacts within the State Department, Frederick Merrill, stated his approval of this 1958 exchange. [xxviii] Merrill worked with the Free Europe Committee, which funded Radio Free Europe and other projects to ensure the flow of funds to Soviet exile groups. [xxix] Michael Paine allowed that Ruth may have written the State Department to set up this exchange. [xxx] The next year, Merrill informed the chief of CIA East-West Contacts that the Rand Corporation was asking the State Department about Robert Webster?s whereabouts when he defected to the Soviet Union. [xxxi] Oswald was to follow in Webster?s footsteps just days later.
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FREDERICK MERRILL, DIPLOMAT, 69, DEAD - The New York Times
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Dec 2, 1974 - 1 ?Frederick T. Merrill, who was the State Department's Director of East‐West Contacts from 1956 to 1960 and deputy chief of mission in ...

......This is the obit of the father of Robert E.Webster's employer's (H. James Rand's) business partner.:

It seems Jim Rand's father thought highly of the father of Ruth Paine's State Dept. contact that she could
not recall the name of.........
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The Diamond of Psi Upsilon - Volume 20, Issue 1 - Page 47
https://books.google.com/books?id=pJ5MAAAAMAAJ Psi Upsilon - 1933 - ‎Full view - ‎More editions

William Fessenden Merrill 1933....Resigning both positions in June, 1928, he was named vice- president and general manager of Remington Rand, which had previously absorbed his old company, the Library Bureau. .Two months after joining the company, Mr. Merrill was promoted to the presidency of the organization, succeeding James H. Rand, Jr., who became chairman of the board. More than a year ago Brother Merrill retired because of ill health, but retained many directorships until the time of his death. He was a ... He is survived by a widow, a son, Frederick T. Merrill, and a brother, Oliver B. Merrill, Gamma '91. Charles
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
« Reply #167 on: January 12, 2019, 03:43:10 PM »
And think about the counternarrative being implied here.  For some reason RP and the sinister conspirators fabricate this evidence but for some inexplicable reason don't put it in a place and time where the authorities will find it during the search.  Afterward they stick it in a random book and hope they do.  Quite a plan.  And then they don't mention Walker in the note.   Is that how anyone would go about trying to link Oswald to the Walker shooting?  LOL.

If the Police had found the letter on the book written in Russian....Then it would have been duly recorded and it would have entered the evidence stream that was created to frame the patsy, and the letter would have been certified evidence .... 

I would not be a bit surprised that our dear Ruthie the innocent Good Samaritan  had suggested that the police search through the Russian books before she departed so that she would  (Deliberately) not be there when the police discovered the letter.

When she discovered that the police had not found the letter, she took the book to the police so that they could give the book to Marina ( who needed that book like she needed a snorkel and swim fins)

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Re: Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy
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