Ruth Paine - Absolutely part of a conspiracy

[Michael Walton]

Sorry, Bill, you're wrong. Everything is just too pat, too perfect for all of this to happen like the WC tries to convey it to be. You can't have it both ways - we can't have Oswald like a "Tim McVeigh" - a loose cannon nobody who just decides to take a shot at Walker and then kill Kennedy - and then have all of these people in his life (Paine, George, Hosty, the folks down in NO) guiding him and Marina along, finding jobs for him, discovering evidence after the fact, saying they didn't like him but doing things for him.

Life doesn't work that way. I often imagine my own life (and you should too) - Oswald had to have been the luckiest person on Earth for all of things to have happened to him, by total strangers no less. But it wasn't luck - it all happened to lead up to 11/22.

If you can't get your head around it, then that's on you.

[Bill Chapman]

Sorry, Bill, you're wrong. Everything is just too pat, too perfect for all of this to happen like the WC tries to convey it to be. You can't have it both ways - we can't have Oswald like a "Tim McVeigh" - a loose cannon nobody who just decides to take a shot at Walker and then kill Kennedy - and then have all of these people in his life (Paine, George, Hosty, the folks down in NO) guiding him and Marina along, finding jobs for him, discovering evidence after the fact, saying they didn't like him but doing things for him.

Life doesn't work that way. I often imagine my own life (and you should too) - Oswald had to have been the luckiest person on Earth for all of things to have happened to him, by total strangers no less. But it wasn't luck - it all happened to lead up to 11/22.

If you can't get your head around it, then that's on you.

Wrong about what?

? The back seat wasn't raised (beyond normal)
? The plastic roof wasn't bulletproof
? The plastic roof wasn't bullet resistant
? The limo wasn't bulletproof
? LBJ was aghast to learn that, especially when he found out Hoover himself had two bulletproof limos at his personal disposal.. one in California; the other in New York if I remember correctly.

Well?

[Eddie Haymaker]

As usual you prove nothing and don't address the CRUX of the argument

The top wasn't bulletproof? who said it was?

Well at least we  would have known where the bullets came from aye?

once again answering questions nobody asked

But avoiding the elephant in the room

ALL those ridiculous circumstances  5 WEEKS - you gonna ignore that?

This is a classic case of ideology over intellect

[Richard Smith]

Anyone who suggests that Ruth Paine was involved in some type of conspiracy/frame up of Oswald is simply a few fries short of a happy meal.  That is Bigfoot-type nonsense.  Some obvious things RP would have done if she were involved in the frame up:

1) testify that Oswald stored a rifle in her garage
2) testify that Oswald disliked JFK
3) testify that Oswald was acting strangely the night before the assassination
4) confirm that Oswald carried a long package to work on the morning of the assassination.

She did none of these obvious things.

[Eddie Haymaker]

you're argument is weak and incidental

Oswald was arrested and charged with murdering the president

what more did she NEED to do?

It was mission accomplished

she ignored LHO's request for a lawyer

and buried him

THEN she finds the BS walker "evidence"

The saint like Ruth Paine didnt lift a finger for her "friend"

she maintains she never liked

pretty devious and deceptive for an angelic figure no?

Is she your auntie?

[Bill Brown]

you're argument is weak and incidental

Oswald was arrested and charged with murdering the president

what more did she NEED to do?

It was mission accomplished

she ignored LHO's request for a lawyer

and buried him

THEN she finds the BS walker "evidence"

The saint like Ruth Paine didnt lift a finger for her "friend"

she maintains she never liked

pretty devious and deceptive for an angelic figure no?

Is she your auntie?

THEN she finds the BS walker "evidence"

The Walker evidence (the note Lee left behind for Marina) was hidden, by Marina, inside a book which was included in a list of belongings turned over by Ruth Paine to the police in Irving who in turn, gave the items to the Secret Service who would give the property to Marina.  It was the Secret Service who found the note inside the book, not Ruth Paine.

[Eddie Haymaker]

Regardless I just can't get around the odds

What are the odds of this? any city in america,any route,any building on said route,any vip,any day. Thats one lucky lone gunman.He waited 5 weeks for his unlikely opportunity. So when was the last time a sitting US president drove through Dealey Plaza? NEVER? A mathematical impossibility?

He's just a lone gunman stroking his rifle at night,waiting for his chance

"when lord when is it gonna be my time? I can wait decades If I have to, I can swim rivers, I can climb mountains, I ..what he's coming TO ME tomorrow?"   

wow - what a crock

The law of probability says she HAD to know

RP very shrewdly placed him there

She did her very best to get others to do it for her

So they would take the blame AND was caught lying about that

Angelic? Not so much

[Bill Brown]

Regardless I just can't get around the odds

What are the odds of this? any city in america,any route,any building on said route,any vip,any day. Thats one lucky lone gunman.He waited 5 weeks for his unlikely opportunity. So when was the last time a sitting US president drove through Dealey Plaza? NEVER? A mathematical impossibility?

He's just a lone gunman stroking his rifle at night,waiting for his chance

"when lord when is it gonna be my time? I can wait decades If I have to, I ..what he's coming tomorrow?"    wow - what a crock

The law of probability says she HAD to know

You're looking at this whole thing after the fact.

Let's use a typical day in your life as an example.

Once a day is over... and you have made all of the movements you made during that day... and many things happened to you during that day... and you had many conversations with others during the course of that day...

At the end of that day, looking back at the day, the day went exactly like it did, regardless of what the odds were, before that day started, that ALL of those things would happen in the exact manner that they did.

You're basically saying that all of your movements, events and conversations throughout your day had to be suspiciously planned because the odds, before the day started, that every single one of those happenings and conversations would occur in the exact manner that they did were almost nil... Yet, they did occur exactly as they did, despite those almost nil odds.