The Magic Bullet - Fact or Fiction?

[Jerry Freeman]

  I see just the opposite.

You see what you want.

[Andrew Mason]

But her "first shot" is still the one before the fatal head shot.

How do you figure that? She never mentions the head shot and she admitted she was not sure if there were more than two shots. Maybe she just wasn't counting after the first shot because her mind was focused on what she was seeing rather than counting sounds. Maybe the shot that she did not distinguish as a separate shot was one of the last two that were closer together according to the the vast majority of the witnesses.

It's actually the second shot in most LN three-shot scenarios. She's misplaced the first of the three shots (the one many term the "backfire" or "firecracker") because nothing unusual happened (like a person reacting as if they had been shot) and the crowd behaved as they did before the first shot.

It is also the last shot so why could it not be that they did not distinguish between 2 and 3? It is not about "misplacing" shot sounds. It is about not counting them or not distinguishing separate shots.

Meanwhile, your theory requires that "two shot" witnesses fail to register your Z271 second shot. This is after the crowd had (per your theory) been alerted to the President reacting on your Z195 first shot, so they should therefore be immediately concerned about any subsequent shots or happenings in the car.

No. It just means that they heard all the shots but were not focused on counting them or recalling a pattern.  Or maybe they just recalled shots that had some visual effect. If they were focused on what they saw and did not see any effects from the first of the last two shots, maybe after the fact.

[Tim Nickerson]

Not exactly. It does not destroy a second shot SBT but it doesn't exactly support it. He said that when he turned around to see if JFK was ok he was unable to see him. That suggests that JFK  was not where he had been on previous occasions when JBC had turned around to speak with JFK.  It is difficult to understand why he could not have turned around and seen JFK before z193 because JFK is quite far to the right with his right elbow on the top of the right side of the car. JBC had made that turn easily to chat with the President during the trip through Dallas. More to the point, there is no attempt to even look at JFK prior to about z250.

What he said was that he never turned around far enough. And we can see in the Zapruder film that he didn't. Dale Myers has Connally turning sharply to the right beginning at Z157 and reaching 48 degrees of right rotation at Z193.

[Tim Nickerson]

Betzner said he was looking down to wind his camera when he heard the first of two shots he later recalled, the latter one being the head shot. So the winding-the-camera shot he heard could be the shot heard before the head shot. In a three-shot scenario, Betzner has lost track of one of those shots.



As Betzner goes out of the Zapruder film in Z207, he is still lowering his camera and is not looking down. Assuming he winds his camera shortly thereafter, it is an argument that the shot he heard while winding the camera was the proposed SBT shot at Z223.

Damn Jerry! 

[Andrew Mason]

What he said was that he never turned around far enough. And we can see in the Zapruder film that he didn't. Dale Myers has Connally turning sharply to the right beginning at Z157 and reaching 48 degrees of right rotation at Z193.

He did not say the never turned around far enough. His WC testimony indicates that he turned as far as he could but could not catch the President out of the corner of his eye:

"I heard this noise which I immediately took to be a rifle shot. I instinctively turned to my right because the sound appeared to come from over my right shoulder, so I turned to look back over my right shoulder, and I saw nothing unusual except just people in the crowd, but I did not catch the President in the corner of my eye, and I was interested, because once I heard the shot in my own mind I identified it as a rifle shot, and I immediately--the only thought that crossed my mind was that this is an assassination attempt.

So I looked, failing to see him, I was turning to look back over my left shoulder into the back seat, but I never got that far in my turn. I got about in the position I am in now facing you, looking a little bit to the left of center, and then I felt like someone had hit me in the back."

It is absurd to suggest that Gov. Connally was in any way attempting to see JFK prior to disappearing behind the sign and absolutely no suggestion by his actions that he was consumed with fear that an assassination attempt was unfolding. All of that occurs after he reappears from behind the Stemmons sign.

[Eddie Haymaker]

After viewing the Zapruder Film J Curry came to the conclusion that Governor John Connally and John F. Kennedy had been hit by separate bullets. He told interviewer Tom Johnson that he was not convinced that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy: "We don't have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and never did. Nobody's yet been able to put him in the building (Texas School Book Depository) with a gun in his hand."

So we have Jesse Curry
Senator Russell
LBJ and The majority of US citizens polled

All agree that the MBT is BS

[Tim Nickerson]

He did not say the never turned around far enough.

Mr. DEVINE. The first shot that you hear which caused you to look to your right, I think you said you didn't get far enough around to see the President, is that accurate?
Mr. CONNALLY. That is correct.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/hscacon.htm

[Tim Nickerson]

After viewing the Zapruder Film J Curry came to the conclusion that Governor John Connally and John F. Kennedy had been hit by separate bullets. He told interviewer Tom Johnson that he was not convinced that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy: "We don't have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and never did. Nobody's yet been able to put him in the building (Texas School Book Depository) with a gun in his hand."

So we have Jesse Curry
Senator Russell
LBJ and The majority of US citizens polled

All agree that the MBT is BS

Curry did not say "We don't have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and never did."

If he came to the conclusion after viewing the Zapruder film that Governor John Connally and John F. Kennedy had been hit by a separate bullet , then either he never viewed the film the way we can today, or he needed to have his eyes checked.



Kennedy's hands are still dropping between those two frames. The bullet has just passed through him but the involuntary reaction has yet to initiate. The bullet and the following blood, flesh and bone have caused Connally's jacket to bulge out.



The simultaneous reaction of both Kennedy and Connally is unmistakable and undeniable. They were both hit at virtually the same time by the same bullet.