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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #88 on: September 08, 2019, 12:18:16 PM »
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There you go again, stating assumptions as facts.

Nah... just musing

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Re: Name your shooter
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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #89 on: September 08, 2019, 12:39:49 PM »
Nah... just musing

Certainly not "amusing".

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #90 on: September 08, 2019, 12:41:03 PM »

Let me guess.  Your "tests" were contrived to make a 35" inch package almost touch the ground, right?
>>> Watch your mouth. And you guess way too much. And do the math yourself. I held the 35" object straight down at my side and right near the top, with my arm at full length.

I can make a two-foot bag almost touch the ground too if I hold it the right way.
>>> Show us that little trick. Show us where I used a 2ft bag. And just how many inches is ‘close’ to you… or are you JAQ again. The ‘right way’ has the bag almost touching the ground.

Are you forgetting that Linnie Mae did her own test?
>>> Is she Oswald’s height and did her 2ft bag almost touch the ground?

Oh yeah, how does one fit a 40-inch rifle in your 35-inch bag and fold the top over
>>> What bag? My 35” narrow object represents the length of a broken-down Carcano.

It was a leading question.  And Specter had a vested interest in what size he reported.
>> Specter had a vested interest on how a  bag seen to almost touch the ground could now be the size of somebody’s lunch bag.

No, I'm asking you if Specter's 2.5" estimate of what Euins was demonstrating on his own head actually matches Oswald's hairline.  If the size of Oswald's hairline gap is not 2.5" then all bets are off.
>>> No. It’s an estimation. Plus thinning hair in strong sunlight will reveal more skin making the spot appear larger.

Yep.  "Right along in here" doesn't mean much in written text.
>>> In isolation, no. In this case it locates the spot.

No, you're being transparently hypocritical and applying a different standard to yourself.
>>> Point out any hypocrisy on my part.

..and that means receding hairline, why, exactly?  Just because you want it to be?
>>> Take a look at Oswald’s hairline over the years and tell us his hairline wasn’t in retreat. And plenty of mention of ‘receding hair’ re Oswald on google groups over the years.

Another useless attempt at being "clever".  Nobody saw a receding hairline either.  Or Oswald.
>>> And yet you called my Satan/Oswald bit 'creative' the other day. Anyway, stop splitting hairs: you brainiacs keep playing this ‘bald spot’-dictionary-meaning thing and I’m going to mock you.

Mr. SPECTER. Now, did you get a very good look at that man, Amos?
Mr. EUINS. No, sir; I did not.

>>> He’s never said that he could ID anyone, only that he saw a white spot on a head 

Go find a shooter with a bald spot.  "Coulda meant Oswald" is hardly conclusive proof of anything.
>>> That’s your job. We have a guy with the spot Euins described. Better not show up with an sn shooter completely bald or with an Afro is what I’m sayin’.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2019, 12:57:19 PM »
Certainly not "amusing".

Especially not for Kennedy


Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2019, 06:01:35 PM »
Well?
I'm not going to let you know so easily, you should have to work for it, I will lead the way with the process of elimination. We know it was not Oswald. ...ok your turn

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Re: Name your shooter
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #93 on: September 08, 2019, 08:47:40 PM »
>>> Watch your mouth. And you guess way too much. And do the math yourself. I held the 35" object straight down at my side and right near the top, with my arm at full length.

You can hide a multitude of lengths behind “near the top” and “almost touched the ground”

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The ‘right way’ has the bag almost touching the ground.

How do you know you did it the “right way”? The same way you know how big Oswald’s “bald spot” was?

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>>> What bag? My 35” narrow object represents the length of a broken-down

Too bad you have no evidence whatsoever that the Carcano was ever broken down. Or in a bag.

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>>> Point out any hypocrisy on my part.

You discredit Frazier’s estimation because “he wasn’t paying attention”. Euins said he wasn’t paying attention but you not only accept his agreement with Specter’s 2.5 inch bald spot, but you twist that to refer to Oswald’s unknown sized receding hairline.

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>>> And yet you called my Satan/Oswald bit 'creative' the other day. Anyway, you brainiacs keep playing this ‘bald spot’ dictionary meaning thing and I’m going to mock you.

Of course you will. That’s all you’ve got.


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>>> That’s your job. We have a guy with the spot Euins described.

No, you have a guy who you twisted Euins’ description to include.

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #94 on: September 08, 2019, 10:42:09 PM »
You can hide a multitude of lengths behind “near the top” and “almost touched the ground

You can hide a multitude of claims by not committing to anything at all. Continue JAQing off, Sherlock rather than actually demonstrating how to hold a 2ft long bag in such a way so as to almost touch the ground when carried by a 5'9" individual

How do you know you did it the “right way”? The same way you know how big Oswald’s “bald spot” was?
>>> Randle described the way the bag was being handled. The narrow object I handled is heavy enough to force me to find the most efficient way to grasp it, while at the same not compromising my wrist. That turned out to be near the top and straight down to my side with arm extended fully.

Too bad for you that you have no proof that it was a Carcano or was ever in that bag.
>>> How is that 'bad' for me, exactly. This is fun. And what's so bad about having some fun while waiting for you lot to confirm your shooter, along with those who knew in advance that an attempt was about to be made on Kennedy that day?

You discredit Frazier’s estimation because “he wasn’t paying attention”. Euins said he wasn’t paying attention but you not only accept his agreement with Specter’s 2.5 inch bald spot, but you twist that to refer to Oswald’s unknown sized receding hairline.
>>> Buell wasn't paying attention. Euins was. I accept that Euins saw a part of a head that was large enough for him to keep referring to it multiple times.

Of course you will. That’s all you’ve got.
>>> You can't handle being mocked, OBieOne...

No, you have a guy who you twisted Euins’ description to include.
>>> Where did I twist a description that identified the location of a white spot on a head?
« Last Edit: September 08, 2019, 10:55:29 PM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #95 on: September 09, 2019, 12:04:26 AM »
You can hide a multitude of claims by not committing to anything at all. Continue JAQing off, Sherlock rather than actually demonstrating how to hold a 2ft long bag in such a way so as to almost touch the ground when carried by a 5'9" individual

How do you know you did it the “right way”? The same way you know how big Oswald’s “bald spot” was?
>>> Randle described the way the bag was being handled. The narrow object I handled is heavy enough to force me to find the most efficient way to grasp it, while at the same not compromising my wrist. That turned out to be near the top and straight down to my side with arm extended fully.

Too bad for you that you have no proof that it was a Carcano or was ever in that bag.
>>> How is that 'bad' for me, exactly. This is fun. And what's so bad about having some fun while waiting for you lot to confirm your shooter, along with those who knew in advance that an attempt was about to be made on Kennedy that day?

You discredit Frazier’s estimation because “he wasn’t paying attention”. Euins said he wasn’t paying attention but you not only accept his agreement with Specter’s 2.5 inch bald spot, but you twist that to refer to Oswald’s unknown sized receding hairline.
>>> Buell wasn't paying attention. Euins was. I accept that Euins saw a part of a head that was large enough for him to keep referring to it multiple times.

Of course you will. That’s all you’ve got.
>>> You can't handle being mocked, OBieOne...

No, you have a guy who you twisted Euins’ description to include.
>>> Where did I twist a description that identified the location of a white spot on a head?


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>>> How is that 'bad' for me, exactly. This is fun. And what's so bad about having some fun while waiting for you lot to confirm your shooter, along with those who knew in advance that an attempt was about to be made on Kennedy that day?


You are not doing well. Why would someone have to know in advance, Oswald did not do it and did not know in advance, I would say he was surprised. You should be easy on yourself and come to grips with the fact that the wounds Connolly and
Kennedy received were not  from bullets that originated from SFW

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Re: Name your shooter
« Reply #95 on: September 09, 2019, 12:04:26 AM »