Oswald in the TSBD just after the shooting

[Oscar Navarro]

Are you askin Navarro why he wastin time attacking CT's and lying about the case, if LBJ's Special select Blue Ribbon Committee's "essential  conclusions" are accurate and valid....?

Says the guy with a thread that numbers his fabrications.  Should be in the triple digits by now.

When did Junior Jarman ever say that he heard from a motorcycle radio that the motorcade was reaching Main St as you claim? Let's add this to the list.

[Walt Cakebread]

Says the guy with a thread that numbers his fabrications.  Should be in the triple digits by now.

When did Junior Jarman ever say that he heard from a motorcycle radio that the motorcade was reaching Main St as you claim? Let's add this to the list.

Duh,Dumbass...  Jarman, Norman and Givens were standing at the front of the TSBD near a DPD police motorcycle with the radio announcing the progress of the motorcade ...They knew the motorcade was approaching Main street when they decided to go up to the fifth floor where they could get a better view of the parade.

How do you think they knew the location of the parade??   

[Colin Crow]

Says the guy with a thread that numbers his fabrications.  Should be in the triple digits by now.

When did Junior Jarman ever say that he heard from a motorcycle radio that the motorcade was reaching Main St as you claim? Let's add this to the list.

Here is what Norman said.....

Mr. BALL. Did you stay there?
Mr. NORMAN. Well, we stayed there I believe until we got the news that the motorcade was coming down, let's see, is that Commerce, no Main, because Commerce- we went back in the building, James Jarman and I.

He doesn?t say how or from whom he got the news. Maybe it was second hand. But there was a transmission from car 1, that they were approaching Main about 12.22pm. Why would Norman make that up? How do you know that wasn?t the reason Jarman and Norman changed from going with Givens to the parking lot on Record to the 5th floor of the TSBD?

[Zeon Mason]

12:22pm Norman and Jarman "hear the news" , begin their return to TSBD 5th floor.

12:23pm N/J enter rear door of TSBD 1st floor, and walk to the rear staircase

12:24:30 N/J have reached the 5th floor having taken 90 sec to go up 5 flights 18 step staircases, and 80 ft of floor landings

12:24:30- 12:25pm, N/J travel across 5th floor about 150 ft, arriving at their respective windows by 12:25

12:25pm: Bonnie Ray Williams East Elevator from 6th floor arrives on 5th floor. Any earlier, Norman and Jarman are likely seen by BRW or vice versa, walking on the floor, as opposed to already being in place at their windows.

Factoid: Bronson Film presumed to have started at 12:24 pm, 6 minutes prior to JFK motorccade entering DEaley Plaza, shows that there is a box in the window of the SE 6th floor corner window. There is no one seen placing it there. It is ALREADY there, when the Bronson film begins.

Problem: If Oswald had returned immediatelyfrom 2nd floor lunchroom after a 12:17 encounter with Carolyn Arnold, then Oswald was hiding probably on the 6th floor staircase going "up" to 7th floor and waiting for BRW to leave the floor. But how does Oswald get to the SE window by 12:23:30 if BRW is still on the floor and not taking elevator down to 5th floor until 12:25pm?

[Colin Crow]

12:22pm Norman and Jarman "hear the news" , begin their return to TSBD 5th floor.

12:23pm N/J enter rear door of TSBD 1st floor, and walk to the rear staircase

12:24:30 N/J have reached the 5th floor having taken 90 sec to go up 5 flights 18 step staircases, and 80 ft of floor landings

12:24:30- 12:25pm, N/J travel across 5th floor about 150 ft, arriving at their respective windows by 12:25

12:25pm: Bonnie Ray Williams East Elevator from 6th floor arrives on 5th floor. Any earlier, Norman and Jarman are likely seen by BRW or vice versa, walking on the floor, as opposed to already being in place at their windows.

Factoid: Bronson Film presumed to have started at 12:24 pm, 6 minutes prior to JFK motorccade entering DEaley Plaza, shows that there is a box in the window of the SE 6th floor corner window. There is no one seen placing it there. It is ALREADY there, when the Bronson film begins.

Problem: If Oswald had returned immediatelyfrom 2nd floor lunchroom after a 12:17 encounter with Carolyn Arnold, then Oswald was hiding probably on the 6th floor staircase going "up" to 7th floor and waiting for BRW to leave the floor. But how does Oswald get to the SE window by 12:23:30 if BRW is still on the floor and not taking elevator down to 5th floor until 12:25pm?

Slight correction Zeno, Jarman and Norman took the west elevator to the sixth. From memory it took about 30 seconds or so for the elevator to go the five floors.

The timing is much later for those events than the WC proposed. The additional problem for the official "story" is that the unfinished chicken lunch was found in the SN windows by the first officers who made statements about the crime scene. Someone moved it before Fritz arrived. Williams (eventually) admitted to the lunch being his and was vague about where he left it. No wonder as for a few days it was claimed to be the assassin?s.

[Walt Cakebread]

Slight correction Zeno, Jarman and Norman took the west elevator to the sixth. From memory it took about 30 seconds or so for the elevator to go the five floors.

The timing is much later for those events than the WC proposed. The additional problem for the official "story" is that the unfinished chicken lunch was found in the SN windows by the first officers who made statements about the crime scene. Someone moved it before Fritz arrived. Williams (eventually) admitted to the lunch being his and was vague about where he left it. No wonder as for a few days it was claimed to be the assassin?s.

Williams (eventually) admitted to the lunch being his and was vague about where he left it.

Don't you think that it's odd that Williams didn't acknowledge immediately that he'd eaten his lunch there in the SE corner of the sixth floor?   

I suspect that it was the police who didn't want the public to know that Williams had been there on the sixth floor until just a few minutes before the murder.

WHY?? Would the cops endeavor to keep the public in the dark?    It seems clear that Williams had seen someone there on the sixth floor just like witnesses on the street below had seen a 175 pound white man in his mid thirties, who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing .....   But the police did not want us pissants to know that.

[Bill Chapman]

It would be nice if you could spell my name correctly. But then you aren't known for being correct, most of the time, Chapman.

No one is 'correct' to you lot unless they are CTers

You have not shown any interest in acknowledging my demonstrated understanding of satire. Yet you are worried about having your name spelled correctly.

@Newbies: Another shallow CTer observed

[Bill Chapman]

Did you forget what you said


LOL.  Nothing.  That's what I figured.

I wouldn't have posted the dispatch graphic if you hadn't said something inaccurate.
Why don't you actually do some work and find out for yourself where you were inaccurate...