Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

[Walt Cakebread]

After the murder when LBJ learned that there were Russians and nuclear missiles in Cuba? I am confused there...what murder? The Cuban missile crisis was in 1962. Everyone re-read this article and understand that with Latins ..look alike gringos do look alike. I have experienced this first hand---
 https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/State_Secret_Chapter3.html
The contradictions are glaring huh? So prove to me that Oswald really went to Mexico-- why should I have to prove that he didn't?  I have repeatedly posted several times affirmation/assertion that it looks quite doubtful.

After the murder when LBJ learned that there were Russians and nuclear missiles in Cuba[/b]? I am confused there...what murder? The Cuban missile crisis was in 1962.

Yes, the missile crisis was in the autumn of 62.... JFK defused the crisis by agreeing to remove US missiles from Turkey if the Russians removed their missiles from Cuba.   However many powerful and  influential  people  in the US didn't believe that Khrueschev had removed all of the Russian missiles.... and U-2 over flights seemed to confirm that there were still missiles in Cuba. ( This is exactly the reason that JFK wanted to place agents like Lee Oswald who spoke fluent Russian in Cuba.) 

So .....After the murder ( of JFK)  when LBJ learned that there were Russians and nuclear missiles in Cuba, and they didn't dare  attack Cuba they had to "erase" Oswald's trip to Mexico city....and in fact they confused the issue by presenting photos of a man that obviously was NOT Lee Oswald at the Russian Embassy in Mexico city.

[Vincent Baxter]

After the murder when LBJ learned that there were Russians and nuclear missiles in Cuba[/b]? I am confused there...what murder? The Cuban missile crisis was in 1962.

Yes, the missile crisis was in the autumn of 62.... JFK defused the crisis by agreeing to remove US missiles from Turkey if the Russians removed their missiles from Cuba.   However many powerful and  influential  people  in the US didn't believe that Khrueschev had removed all of the Russian missiles.... and U-2 over flights seemed to confirm that there were still missiles in Cuba. ( This is exactly the reason that JFK wanted to place agents like Lee Oswald who spoke fluent Russian in Cuba.) 

So .....After the murder ( of JFK)  when LBJ learned that there were Russians and nuclear missiles in Cuba, and they didn't dare  attack Cuba they had to "erase" Oswald's trip to Mexico city....and in fact they confused the issue by presenting photos of a man that obviously was NOT Lee Oswald at the Russian Embassy in Mexico city.

This still makes no sense!
The official verdict of the Warren Commission was that Oswald acted alone, so why the need to attempt to hush up his trip to Mexico?
And even if your theory was correct, the W.C. would have had to change and lie about so many things to convincingly arrive to their LN conclusion that if they really wanted to "erase" his trip to Mexico they easily could have done.

[Walt Cakebread]

This still makes no sense!
The official verdict of the Warren Commission was that Oswald acted alone, so why the need to attempt to hush up his trip to Mexico?
And even if your theory was correct, the W.C. would have had to change and lie about so many things to convincingly arrive to their LN conclusion that if they really wanted to "erase" his trip to Mexico they easily could have done.

The official verdict of the Warren Commission was that Oswald acted alone, so why the need to attempt to hush up his trip to Mexico?

The trip to Mexico City was designed to make it appear that Lee Oswald was in cahoots with Castro, and he murdered JFK as Castro's agent.   ( Just minutes after Lee was taken to the police station, Hoover wrote a memo at 3:01 pm CST in which he said  that Lee had been to Cuba on several occasions but would not reveal why he went to Cuba. Hoover was lying ....but the point is; in the early aftermath of the assassination Hoover was trying to create evidence that would tie Lee Oswald to Fidel Castro, and give LBJ reason to attack Cuba. )   

When LBJ learned from U-2 photos that the Russians in Cuba, had rolled out the nuclear missiles  just minutes after JFK was murdered, he realized that he could not order an attack on Cuba , and they would have to abandon their charges that Lee Oswald was a communist in cahoots with Castro.   Thus they had to erase Lee's visit to the Cuban embassy in  Mexico City....     Which they did by introducing confusion and photos of a man who clearly is not Lee Oswald.

[Jerry Freeman]

I would like to change the topic to..How can we be absolutely and completely positive that Oswald actually really and truly went to Mexico City?

[Thomas Graves]

I would like to change the topic to..How can we be absolutely and completely positive that Oswald actually really and truly went to Mexico City?

Freeman,

Too late.

Sorry.

--  MWT 

PS  Any thoughts on why Sylvia Duran and Eusebio Azcue described the Oswald they'd dealt with at the Cuban Consulate in such a way as to perfectly describe short, skinny, 35 year-old, blond-haired, blue-eyed, very thin-faced KGB Colonel Nikolai Leonov ("Third Secretary" and "Assistant Cultural Attache" at the Soviet embassy), or why the man who impersonated Oswald in telephone calls on Saturday, September 28 and Tuesday, October 2 spoke bad Russian and bad English?

Regarding that last question, I believe the impersonator naturally spoke bad English, and went out of his way to speak bad Russian, not realizing that Oswald spoke it quite well.

[Jerry Freeman]

The trip to Mexico City was designed to make it appear that Lee Oswald was in cahoots with Castro, and he murdered JFK as Castro's agent.

That ploy [the alleged trip] was structured by the deep state rogue conspirators and anti-Castro assets. 

( Just minutes after Lee was taken to the police station, Hoover wrote a memo at 3:01 pm CST in which he said  that Lee had been to Cuba on several occasions but would not reveal why he went to Cuba. Hoover was lying .

Hoover was TOLD that Oswald had been to Cuba. Now...if Oswald had the means to go to Cuba before--then why would he need to go to Mexico City and hustle for a Cuban visa? Passports [which I say for the **umpteenth time Oswald didn't really have] are always meticulously stamped by customs of the receiving country.
**Logically--A current passport would have been found in Oswald's belongings...it wasn't but why not? Incriminating crap was "found" all over Mrs Paine's garage!

[Thomas Graves]

Oleg Nechiporenko, the then Vice Consul for the Soviet Consulate in Mexico City, recalled in his book on Oswald that on September 27th 1963 a man came to ask for a visa to the Soviet Union and:

"Presented his American passport, issued in the name of Lee Harvey Oswald. He also showed a marriage certificate to Marina Prusakova. Nechiporenko told historian Peter Dale Scott that he had not the slightest doubt that the man he met at the Soviet Embassy was Lee Harvey Oswald - or else "his identical twin".

From Nechiporenko's book: "Passport to Assassination", pp 66-67

And this: Patricia Winston, an Australian youg woman who along with her friend were on a bus headed to Mexico City: "It was on the bus to Mexico City that we encountered Lee Oswald. He heard us speaking English and wanted to talk to us, and so we talked about our travels and he told us that he'd been to Russia. He went, then, and got his passport and showed us the Russian stamp on his passport."

From PBS Frontline's "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?"
link:  https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/oswald/transcript/

And one more: Pamela Mumford accompanied Winston on the bus. She testified that she met and talked to Oswald on the bus headed towards Mexico City.

Here, in part, is her WC testimony:
Miss MUMFORD. I will have to refer to notes. Oh, yes; the first thing he told us was that he was from Fort Worth, in Texas. And he wanted to know where we had been, and we told him we were Australians. He wanted to know the places we had visited. We told him. And he mentioned that he had been in Japan while he was in the Marines, and that was the closest he had got to Australia and that he would very much like to go to Australia.
He then told us that he had been to Russia and asked whether we had ever been to Russia. We said no, and we told him of a friend of ours, a fellow Australian, who had been to Moscow, and her experiences there.
And we asked him what he was doing in Russia and did he have trouble getting in. He said that he was studying there. He had an apartment in Moscow and was studying. We didn't ask him what he was studying.
At this stage he showed us his passport that had a Russian stamp on it; some sort of a Russian stamp. And he didn't mention his Russian wife at all. But We noticed he had a gold wedding ring on his left hand.

source/link: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/mumford.htm

(sigh) ... Steve M., Steve M., Steve M.,

What makes you think KGB-boy Nechiporenko was telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Because the Soviet Union had "collapsed"?

LOL

Interesting little factoid:  Another KGB guy, "Third Secretary and Assistant Cultural Attache" Nikolai Leonov, without mentioning Oswald's alleged appearances at the Soviet consulate on Friday or Saturday, claimed a few years ago that he had met one-on-one with Oswald at the Soviet embassy (not consulate) on SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, when Oswald showed up unexpectedly and interrupted a volleyball game (or some-such thing), and yep, Oswald got all emotional, and yep, Oswald brandished his revolver!

It's like these guys are going out of their way to paint Oswald as one crazy and dangerous dude (gosh, no wonder the KGB didn't even interview the U-2 radar operator while he was in the USSR, and no wonder they let the "suicide prone" U-2 radar operator stay in the USSR for two-and-one-half years! -- Just Like Yuri Nosenko said!) ... and as a guy who was therefore more than capable of assassinating an American president!

"And we Ruskies didn't have anything to do with it!"

LOL

--  MWT 

[Jerry Freeman]

  ... Steve M., Steve M., Steve M.,

There's three of him?

Here, in part, is her WC testimony:
Miss MUMFORD. I will have to refer to notes. Oh, yes; the first thing he told us was that he was from Fort Worth, in Texas. And he wanted to know where we had been, and we told him we were Australians. He wanted to know the places we had visited. We told him. And he mentioned that he had been in Japan while he was in the Marines, and that was the closest he had got to Australia and that he would very much like to go to Australia.
He then told us that he had been to Russia and asked whether we had ever been to Russia. We said no, and we told him of a friend of ours, a fellow Australian, who had been to Moscow, and her experiences there.

I stated earlier in the thread that this could not possibly have been the genuine patsy.
Oswald was a snob....Every other witness has said so. Here we have someone eager to share his whole life's story?---Pig slop.