When did Jarman and Norman go to the 5th floor?

[Walt Cakebread]

It is not impossible Jerry. My read of their testimonies indicates that they stayed close to the entrance on the west side. Truly was initially on the east side near the mailboxes. Truly mentioned them leaving with  Givens, who went to another location near Record and Main. They went around the east side of the building and in the back entrance. Think someone in the SN probably needs to stick their head out the window and look down to observe that movement.

Think someone in the SN probably needs to stick their head out the window and look down to observe that movement.

No witness reported seeing anybody hanging precariously out of a window ........And even if Lee had been there dressed in light colored khaki clothes and hung out of that window how would he have known where Jarman and Norman were going and why would he have cared ??

[John Iacoletti]

We will never know the exact time they reentered the TSBD but the important fact was that it was at a time that was close to the scheduled time for the motorcade to pass. Well after Arnold Rowland saw a man with a rifle in the SW window of the 6th floor. Certainly it is interesting that Oswald should single out those two in particular during interrogation. From memory one of those present claimed Oswald said they "passed through" the domino room. A perculiar expression to use for a room with only one entrance. Perhaps it was "passed by" instead.

Fritz and Kelley reported that Oswald said he had lunch with them.  Anyone who claims to know what Oswald said about Norman and Jarman is fabricating.

[John Iacoletti]

If Oswald was in the Sniper's Nest, couldn't he have seen Jarman and Norman on the street below? And wouldn't he know Jarman and Norman were together from them having arrived at the fifth-floor window together?

It's possible.  It's also possible that he saw them together when they were all on the first floor around 11:50-noon.  It's also possible that that he knew Norman and Jarman usually ate lunch together in the domino room (even though they didn't that day) and he just threw their names out with some generic statement about seeing them together.

We'll never know.

[Walt Cakebread]

It's possible.  It's also possible that he saw them together when they were all on the first floor around 11:50-noon.  It's also possible that that he knew Norman and Jarman usually ate lunch together in the domino room (even though they didn't that day) and he just threw their names out with some generic statement about seeing them together.

We'll never know.

he just threw their names out with some generic statement about seeing them together.


Riiiiight!...That explains why Fritz jotted down....."says  two negr. came in.....one Jr. + short negro."

Lee just made an uncanny guess that Junior Jarman and Harold Norman "came in" at 12:27.....

And what's really super uncanny is the fact that Lee was so quick of mind that he knew he needed an alibi for that very time......Even though his mind would have been occupied with dozens of other thoughts if he had been guilty.

[John Iacoletti]

Riiiiight!...That explains why Fritz jotted down....."says  two negr. came in.....one Jr. + short negro."

First of all, Fritz "jotted" that down several days after the fact.

But, what did he mean by "came in"?  Came in where?  And when?  Answer that without any fabricating.

[Walt Cakebread]

First of all, Fritz "jotted" that down several days after the fact.

But, what did he mean by "came in"?  Came in where?  And when?  Answer that without any fabricating.

First of all, Fritz "jotted" that down several days after the fact.

If you actually believe that .....Then your even more gullible and naive than I previously thought.   

But, what did he mean by "came in"?  Came in where?  And when?

Well what did Jarman and Norman say?.....Didn't they say that they "CAME IN" to the first floor shipping room?

And didn't they say they left the front of the TSBD and walked north along the east side of the TSBD ( passing right in front of the Domino room windows) at 12:25?

Is this too complicated for you?

[John Iacoletti]

If you actually believe that .....Then your even more gullible and naive than I previously thought.

And your reason for not believing it is....because you fabricated a different story.
   

Well what did Jarman and Norman say?.....Didn't they say that they "CAME IN" to the first floor shipping room?

We're talking about what Oswald said.  And nobody who was present at the interrogation said that he said that.  Sorry Walt, you just made it up.  Again.

[Walt Cakebread]

And your reason for not believing it is....because you fabricated a different story.
   
We're talking about what Oswald said.  And nobody who was present at the interrogation said that he said that.  Sorry Walt, you just made it up.  Again.

We're talking about what Oswald said.

Were not talking about what Oswald said without regard to the EVENT he was talking about.....

He said that he saw Jarman and Norman come in......

It's true that HE didn't know them by name.... but we do.....