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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2018, 05:08:30 AM »
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SA Lem Johns was "left behind in Dealey Plaza".

Johns caught a ride to Parkland with another vehicle that was in the motorcade and therefore, was not left behind in Dealey Plaza.

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2018, 05:44:14 PM »
Johns caught a ride to Parkland with another vehicle that was in the motorcade and therefore, was not left behind in Dealey Plaza.

                                       
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You well know SA Lem Johns was Initially seated inside the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car. You also Know that he jumped out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car and then that car sped away. This left SA Lem Johns "behind in Dealey Plaza". We frequently have Newbes coming to this Forum for Information regarding the JFK Assassination. Please do Not mislead them in your attempt to avoid admitting you made a mistake.

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2018, 04:05:02 PM »
         BILL

You well know SA Lem Johns was Initially seated inside the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car. You also Know that he jumped out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car and then that car sped away. This left SA Lem Johns "behind in Dealey Plaza". We frequently have Newbes coming to this Forum for Information regarding the JFK Assassination. Please do Not mislead them in your attempt to avoid admitting you made a mistake.

I didn't make a mistake here.  Johns caught a ride with one of the camera cars in the moving motorcade and therefore, was not left behind in Dealey Plaza.

Perhaps your definition of "left behind" is different than mine, but that does not mean that I am wrong.

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2018, 01:38:27 AM »
The Stemmons sign was made of wood !

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2020, 01:38:12 AM »
The Great Zapruder Film Hoax by Jim Fetzer   Of all the presenters who traveled to Duluth for the Symposium , the one who traveled farthest was Dr. John Costella, a theoretical physicist from Australia. Dr. Costella is something of a newcomer to the area of JFK research but he has made astounding contributions already. One of the more fascinating discoveries Costella has made involves the Stemmons Freeway sign in Dealey Plaza. As it turns out , the lens system on Zapruder's camera was patented by Bell & Howell; its characteristics are well documented. As many are aware , Zapruder's Bell & Howell Director's Series 414PD camera was set on telephoto while he filmed the presidential motorcade. This lens has a characteristic "pincushioning" effect which tends to pull the image frames outward .  This pincushioning effect is clearly present in the extant Zapruder film , as it should be . Except there is no pincushioning detected for the Stemmons Freeway sign along Elm Street---and there should be. Costella shows that it is physically impossible for pincushioning to occur in portions of movie frames selectively while other portions are free from the distortion . How could the Stemmons sign have escaped the pincushioning ? The short and undeniable answer is that the Stemmons Freeway sign , as it appears , was inserted into the film after it was processed . The sign should have had the same pincushion distortion as the rest of the frame as well as all the frames before and after the ones in which the sign appears. Recall that the extant film shows JFK smiling and waving to the crowd prior to disappearing behind the sign . When he re-emerges he has his hands up to his throat as he reacts to being shot . Irrefutably , the Stemmons sign obscures the throat shot---a frontal throat shot. Some researchers have theorized that the sign was also struck by a shot from the grassy knoll. ( The sign was not made of metal but was plywood.) Are these the reasons an artificial sign was inserted into the extant film? If so, Costella reasons , the extant film was not merely " altered " ---it was " fabricated ". Fabricated , as in " falsified "---with criminal intent , since obstructing justice was , and still is , a crime. assassinationresearch.com/v3n2/v3n2dellarosa.pdf   

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2020, 08:17:05 AM »
Were there holes in the Stemmons Freeway Sign ? Jim Marrs says that the Freeway sign was taken 
down because of the bullet holes in the sign . I had asked the 6th floor curator Gary Mack about the sign several years ago, if he had knowledge of the sign being taken down due to  bullet holes . His e-mail reply was that he knew of no holes in the sign. Anyone have any knowledge of bullet holes in the sign on 11-22-63 .

Fair enough there were no holes.But were their stress marks? For example if someone was shooting from the triple over-pass, in theory fragments from the head shot could have hit the sign.

Someone must have that sign somewhere in their garage. I doubt it would be just dumped?

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2020, 12:46:15 AM »
    "Except there is no pincushioning detected for the Stemmons Freeway sign along Elm Street---
     and there should be. Costella shows that it is physically impossible for pincushioning to occur
     in portions of movie frames selectively while other portions are free from the distortion.
     How could the Stemmons sign have escaped the pincushioning?"



Costella may understand the principal, but he doesn't know how to detect pincushioning.

Please note that the neutral position of the Stemmons sign in the Zapruder film was leaning to camera-right. Any "vertical-straightening" of the posts in the corner signals pincushion.


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    Forget the "pincushioning" blah/blah/blah. What about the groundskeeper Emmit Hudson giving WC Testimony that the signs had been Taken Down/Moved? If anyone would be aware of something being done to the signs it would be the guy cutting the grass and trimming the Knoll.

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Re: Stemmons Freeway sign
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2020, 02:43:27 AM »


Unchanged as of May 24, 1964 when the FBI re-enacted the car's position as seen in the Zapruder film. Pictures taken that day from Zapruder's position appear in WC Exhibits and show the Stemmons sign as it was on the day of the assassination. My best conclusion is that the Stemmons freeway sign was removed at some time after May 24th and when Hudson testified on July 22, 1964.

No doubt thousands of regular Dallas commuters also noticed the sign change.

Daffy Sylvia Meagher claimed Hudson's testimony, given in mid-1964, revealed the Stemmons sign had been "removed completely by early in 1965". She writes: "we do not know if the sign was moved before or after the FBI re-eanactment tests of May 24, 1964, or, for that matter, before or after the Secret Service re-enactments of December 5, 1963". She had almost three years to resolve all or part of that, and nine additional years between her book publication and reissue to correct it.



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    The question remains, Why Take Down/Move the signs?  The Moving of the signs being done After the FBI examined the Knoll with a fine tooth comb also looms large!

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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2020, 02:43:27 AM »