Lack Of Damage To CE-399

[Walt Cakebread]

This same photo is printed on page 88 of Jess Curry's book  JFK  Assassination File  where it a bit easier to see.....



In Curry's book the items are numbered and there is a list accompaning the photo.....The Bullet Fragment is item number 3 .....And it obviously is a fairly large chunk of metal.....I would estimate it is about the size of a .22 caliber bullet ( 55 grains)   ..... The point is:.....  This photo precedes the magic bullet theory and the MBT  would have us believe that the Magic Bullet lost very little metal as it crashed through JFK and JBC  .....and yet this photo shows a BIG chunk of metal....

[Martin Weidmann]

Thank you.....   Since the paper bag isn't stained and destroyed in this photo we can be certain that this photo was taken when the FBI received the evidence at midnight on 11/22 63.   Is that correct?


And this is the list that accompanied the photo , is that correct?

Since the paper bag isn't stained and destroyed in this photo we can be certain that this photo was taken when the FBI received the evidence at midnight on 11/22 63.   Is that correct?

IMO it doesn't have to be the moment when the FBI received the evidence. It could have been taken earlier that evening. What the photo does do, is provide an explanation how fibers from the blanket could have gotten into the paper bag.

And this is the list that accompanied the photo , is that correct?

Actually, on the list is written what the FBI returned to the DPD the next day.

The document clearly shows that the three fragments handed in by Nurse Bell have already become one fragment. One can only wonder how that happened....

[Gary Craig]

Since the paper bag isn't stained and destroyed in this photo we can be certain that this photo was taken when the FBI received the evidence at midnight on 11/22 63.   Is that correct?

IMO it doesn't have to be the moment when the FBI received the evidence. It could have been taken earlier that evening. What the photo does do, is provide an explanation how fibers from the blanket could have gotten into the paper bag.

And this is the list that accompanied the photo , is that correct?

Actually, on the list is written what the FBI returned to the DPD the next day.

The document clearly shows that the three fragments handed in by Nurse Bell have already become one fragment. One can only wonder how that happened....

"What the photo does do, is provide an explanation how fibers from the blanket could have gotten into the paper bag."

This photo as well.

[Walt Cakebread]

Since the paper bag isn't stained and destroyed in this photo we can be certain that this photo was taken when the FBI received the evidence at midnight on 11/22 63.   Is that correct?

IMO it doesn't have to be the moment when the FBI received the evidence. It could have been taken earlier that evening. What the photo does do, is provide an explanation how fibers from the blanket could have gotten into the paper bag.

And this is the list that accompanied the photo , is that correct?

Actually, on the list is written what the FBI returned to the DPD the next day.

The document clearly shows that the three fragments handed in by Nurse Bell have already become one fragment. One can only wonder how that happened....

Actually, on the list is written what the FBI returned to the DPD the next day.


Yes, I initially over looked the fact that this was a list of 9 items that the FBI allegedly returned to the DPD on (11/25/63 ?   I think the date is right)

But the paper bag is one of the items listed......and we know that it was destroyed as evidence by the FBI...so why sent that back to the DPD...

And we know they didn't send the carcano back to the DPD.... They sent it to the arsenal for cleaning and testing......

On the night of 11/22/63 the DPD released 15 items of evidence to the FBI....  A couple of days later the FBI returned 9 items to the DPD....

the items that were not returned ( or at least were not listed  ) is:.....

1) The brass button from Tippit's jacket
2) several fragments taken from the body of Gov Connally.......( the FBI returned only one fragment)
3) 1- Piece of cardboard containing palm print of subject
4) 3-Empty cardboard boxes A, B. & C
5) 1-Cardboard box , empty, size 11 3/4"  X 13"  X  17 1/2"  from which thumb print of subject was found.
6) 1- Partial palm print "off underside gun barrel near end of foregrip "  on rifle # C2766
7) 3- negatives of partial prints found on trigger housing of rifle ser # C2766
 

[Walt Cakebread]

Since the paper bag isn't stained and destroyed in this photo we can be certain that this photo was taken when the FBI received the evidence at midnight on 11/22 63.   Is that correct?

IMO it doesn't have to be the moment when the FBI received the evidence. It could have been taken earlier that evening. What the photo does do, is provide an explanation how fibers from the blanket could have gotten into the paper bag.

And this is the list that accompanied the photo , is that correct?

Actually, on the list is written what the FBI returned to the DPD the next day.

The document clearly shows that the three fragments handed in by Nurse Bell have already become one fragment. One can only wonder how that happened....

Directing your attention to item number 3.... TWO (2) spent shells......  And thats what was sent to the FBI on 11/22/63...... But later they increased that number to three spent shells ( after the overwhelming majority of witnesses heard three shots)....



it doesn't have to be the moment when the FBI received the evidence. It could have been taken earlier that evening.

Yes that's right....But LBJ had ordered DPD Chief Curry to turn the investigation over the FBI at midnight......

[Tim Nickerson]

The list says.....one bullet fragment from the body of Gov, John Connally.

The evidence envelope that was signed bu nurse Audrey Bell says  ' bullet fragments-  right arm"

I can't read the envelope in the photo but it appears to be the same envelope that Audrey bell signed which says FRAGMENTS ( plural) from right arm

So why the hell does the evidence list say FRAGMENT  ( singular) from Connally's body.....

There are a number of documents of the day that refer to the fragments in the singular, including the receipt for the transfer of them from Audrey Bell to Bobby Nolan.

[Martin Weidmann]

There are a number of documents of the day that refer to the fragments in the singular, including the receipt for the transfer of them from Audrey Bell to Bobby Nolan.

Simply amazing, how every single piece of physical evidence somehow turns into a source for confusion and controversy.

[Walt Cakebread]

Simply amazing, how every single piece of physical evidence somehow turns into a source for confusion and controversy.

It is amazing.....  And if the investigators had truly been investigators there wouldn't be controversy.    But The DPD lead by the senile Captain fritz simply botched one piece of evidence after another....   At first Hoover was furious that the DPD was revealing so much evidence, but he then realized that they could create a confused mess out of the information and misinformation, and add some false evidence to the mess and then nobody would ever be able to solve the case.