ML Baker Sept '64 FBI Affidavit- Oswald and the Soda

[David Von Pein]

The devastating words in Agent Hosty's notes about Mr Oswald's claim about a pre-motorcade visit to the 2nd fl lunchroom and about going "outside to watch P. Parade" were concealed from the public.

But there was no real need for the authorities to want to hide the fact that Oswald said he went outside to watch the parade (if, in fact, he really DID say those words, which I doubt very much, since nobody wrote those words in ANY official report at all).

Since the law enforcement people involved in this case knew that Oswald lied about so many other things during his interrogation (with those lies being made public), why would the WC or FBI feel the need to hide ONE MORE LIE coming from the lips of the accused Presidential assassin? The authorities had lots of evidence to charge LHO with JFK's murder within 12 hours of the crime. And they knew he was going to lie his ass off. That was obvious right from the start. So what's one more lie?

Do you REALLY think the DPD and FBI knew for a fact that Oswald really was standing outside on the steps when JFK was shot, and that the "Prayer Man" theorists were going to surface in the future with their "bombshell" evidence in the form of the blurry Darnell Film that they say proves Oswald was in the doorway? And is that why the authorities concealed Hosty's note from the world until 2018 when Mr. Blunt dug it out?

And, BTW, why didn't the cover-uppers just destroy that Hosty note? If it's the "key" to the WC story crumbling into dust, why did "they" leave that bread crumb for Blunt to find?

CTers never answer logical questions like that, do they?

[Alan Ford]

But there was no real need for the authorities to want to hide the fact that Oswald said he went outside to watch the parade (if, in fact, he really DID say those words, which I'm doubting he did, since nobody wrote those words in ANY official report at all).

But since Oswald lied about so many other things during his interrogation, why would the WC or FBI feel the need to hide just ONE MORE LIE from the lips of the accused Presidential assassin.

Because it wasn't a lie, and they knew it.

Those less gullible than you, Mr von Pein, understand the significance of the Hosty note. And they see the pathetic circularity of your reasoning: We know that Oswald shot JFK, therefore nothing that points to his not having shot JFK can be taken seriously.

[David Von Pein]

The problem that you (and all CTers) have is: There's just too much stuff on the "Oswald Did It" table for you to skirt around (including the Tippit murder evidence too, which only a hopelessly fanatical CTer can possibly deny was committed by Oswald).

You can try and pretend that it's all fake and phony evidence, but reasonable people can see that's just a convenient cop-out. And that evidence isn't going anywhere---regardless of Prayer Man and the Hosty note.

[Walt Cakebread]

The problem that you (and all CTers) have is: There's just too much stuff on the "Oswald Did It" table for you to skirt around (including the Tippit murder evidence too, which only a hopelessly fanatical CTer can possibly deny was committed by Oswald).

You can try and pretend that it's all fake and phony evidence, but reasonable people can see that's just a convenient cop-out. And that evidence isn't going anywhere---regardless of Prayer Man and the Hosty note.

Let's get right to the point Mr Von Pea Brain....You're FOS!     Very few are going to accept the BS you spew.    We've heard it for nearly six decades and after all of those years  the vast majority still refuse to buy the lie.....  So rave on Pea Brain.....you're voice is getting weaker everyday...

[Walt Cakebread]

Thank you for your clear answer, Mr von Pein! 

If Mr Oswald did indeed indeed confirm the 2nd floor lunchroom incident, then how do we explain this from Agent Hosty?



Did Mr Oswald tell Captain Fritz he went to the 2nd fl lunchroom to buy a coke, came downstairs to eat his lunch, went out front to watch the parade, then (just after the shooting) went to the 2nd fl lunchroom to buy a coke, came downstairs to eat his lunch, went out front?

I believe that Hosty was a bit confused ( due to his panic caused by Oswald being caught) He had been chewed out and ordered over to the DPD by Hoover less than an hour earlier, and he was trying to clear the FBI of any failure that could have led to the murder of the President.   ( He wasn't smart enough and wasn't the agent for the job)



Years later he was still trying to clean up some of the mess he made when he wrote the book "Assignment : Oswald" in 2011....On page 23 of his book Hosty wrote about the interrogation of Lee Oswald that was conducted ( pun)   at 3:15  11/22 /63 ...
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Where were you when the president went by the depository?
"I was eating my lunch in the first floor lunchroom."
Were you ever on the second floor around the time the president was shot?
"Well Yeah, I went up there to get a bottle of Coca- Cola from the machine for my lunch."
But where were you when the president actually passed your building?
"On the first floor in the lunchroom"

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There can be no doubt that Lee Oswald went to the second floor and had a coke in his hand when Baker and Truly encountered him in the second floor lunchroom.

About a week after the coup d e'tat a reporter from the magazine US News and World Report was at the TSBD talking to Roy Truly ....

Truly told the reporter that Lee was in he second floor lunch room calmly DRINKING A COCA - COLA when Baker opened the door to the lunchroom and demanded to know what Oswald was doing there.....

This interview took place before anybody knew that there was a huge problem with the theory that Lee had ran from the SE corner of the sixth floor to the second floor lunchroom after the shooting.

[Walt Cakebread]

Because it wasn't a lie, and they knew it.

Those less gullible than you, Mr von Pein, understand the significance of the Hosty note. And they see the pathetic circularity of your reasoning: We know that Oswald shot JFK, therefore nothing that points to his not having shot JFK can be taken seriously.

Those less gullible than you, Mr von Pein, understand the significance of the Hosty note.

Alan.... Von PB isn't gullible...... ( Hells Bells,  a little 8 year old kid isn't THAT gullible....)   He's an arrogant, egotistical, liar.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Yeah, that's what I thought. Cakebread's full of crap (and empty claims), as usual. Just like in all these examples below, wherein I made Cakebread look like the conspiracy-happy fantasist that he is....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Walt+Cakebread

Attention Please....   All readers of this thread .... Please click on the link that Von Pea Brain provided....   It's a golden example of Von P's ignorance. 

[Oscar Navarro]

Attention Please....   All readers of this thread .... Please click on the link that Von Pea Brain provided....   It's a golden example of Von P's ignorance.

Says Foghorn Leghorn. The one member of this forum with a thread dedicated to his fabrications.