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Online Richard Smith

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2019, 01:31:08 PM »
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Indeed.... hyperbole and strawman arguments are more his game.

But to some extend completely understandable as it lines up perfectly with the LN strategy of presenting anything else but 'Oswald did it alone' as an absurdity by blowing the whole thing out of all proportions.

How exactly is it "hyperbole" and "strawman" when in almost every single instance in which there is evidence of Oswald's guilt (and there is a mountain) you imply it is the product of fakery or lies?  How and why could all this evidence exist from a wide variety of different sources including Oswald's wife, acquaintances, random witnesses he encountered on 11.22, state and federal law enforcement, Klein's, medical folks, and WC investigators.   Just the number of people that would have to be involved in a frame up alone would be mind boggling and date back years before the assassination.  That doesn't even get into the assassination itself.  If they were framing Oswald, then presumably more people would have to pull off the assassination and cover up whoever pulled the trigger.  And then someone has to arrange killing Oswald while in custody.  No easy task.  They have to recruit someone willing to go to jail for the rest of his life and make sure he keeps quiet.  But you want to eat your cake and have it too.  Everyone is suspect but you refuse to acknowledge that vast nature of the conspiracy that necessitates. 

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2019, 03:14:57 PM »
How exactly is it "hyperbole" and "strawman" when in almost every single instance in which there is evidence of Oswald's guilt (and there is a mountain) you imply it is the product of fakery or lies?  How and why could all this evidence exist from a wide variety of different sources including Oswald's wife, acquaintances, random witnesses he encountered on 11.22, state and federal law enforcement, Klein's, medical folks, and WC investigators.   Just the number of people that would have to be involved in a frame up alone would be mind boggling and date back years before the assassination.  That doesn't even get into the assassination itself.  If they were framing Oswald, then presumably more people would have to pull off the assassination and cover up whoever pulled the trigger.  And then someone has to arrange killing Oswald while in custody.  No easy task.  They have to recruit someone willing to go to jail for the rest of his life and make sure he keeps quiet.  But you want to eat your cake and have it too.  Everyone is suspect but you refuse to acknowledge that vast nature of the conspiracy that necessitates.

Just the number of people that would have to be involved in a frame up alone would be mind boggling and date back years before the assassination.

Thank you for proving the point I was making.  Thumb1:

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2019, 06:13:04 PM »
Just the number of people that would have to be involved in a frame up alone would be mind boggling and date back years before the assassination.

Thank you for proving the point I was making.  Thumb1:

It's a straightforward question.  Why so scared?  Maybe you could help us by clarifying which evidence against Oswald that you accept as genuine (i.e. not the product of fakery or lies).  It must be most everything since you are now running from a claim of a large conspiracy.  How about the documentation that confirms Oswald ordered and was sent a MC rifle with a specific serial number?  Genuine or not?  Don't  jump ahead to whether this proves Oswald pulled the trigger.  Just whether Oswald ordered, paid for, and was sent a specific rifle as confirmed by the documentation.  The same rifle that ends up on the 6th floor.

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2019, 06:17:43 PM »
It's a straightforward question.  Why so scared?  Maybe you could help us by clarifying which evidence against Oswald that you accept as genuine (i.e. not the product of fakery or lies).  It must be most everything since you are now running from a claim of a large conspiracy.  How about the documentation that confirms Oswald ordered and was sent a MC rifle with a specific serial number?  Genuine or not?  Don't  jump ahead to whether this proves Oswald pulled the trigger.  Just whether Oswald ordered, paid for, and was sent a specific rifle as confirmed by the documentation.  The same rifle that ends up on the 6th floor.

Show us the time-stamped bank endorsement stamps, Mr Smith! 

You can't even show us one, can you?

Just as you can't explain this!



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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2019, 06:23:25 PM »
Here's my 'basic understanding' of this particular fact: You lot yet have to prove that anyone other than the shooter(s) knew there was to be an attempt made on Kennedy that day.

Milteer knew this was in the making, and Walker knew too, that's why he took the flight for his alibi, he set up the shooting on himself in a similar fashion as part of this alibi, and it also played a part in framing the patsy.
The military who were dealing in WW2 weapons had people in Kleins as well, to manipulate pieces of paper work, is a piece of cake, bottom line is Oswald had no clue what happened on the day.

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2019, 06:30:01 PM »
Show us the time-stamped bank endorsement stamps, Mr Smith! 

You can't even show us one, can you?

Just as you can't explain this!



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"Commit a crime, and the earth is made of glass. Some damning circumstance always transpires." - Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Whew.  You are in some type of compulsion disorder over that silly form you have posted a million times now.  Stick to the appropriate thread on that one (which has already been answered by Ruth Paine - they are her curtain rods kept in her garage from the time of the assassination).  Ironically, the relevant implication here is to add even more conspirators.  I also put you down as believing the evidence that Oswald purchased and was sent a specific rifle from Klein's is the product of fakery.  Thus, a multitude of more  conspirators are added to the plot for this purpose including employees of Klein's.  That cuts against the notion of a small conspiracy.  The point is that you can't have it both ways taking issue with the evidence as being faked or the product of lies but then disputing that you are claiming that necessitates a large conspiracy.  Someone would have to be involved in the faking of all this evidence which comes from a multitude of sources.  A seemingly obvious point that can't be acknowledged due to the absurdity of its implications in a CTer fantasy.
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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2019, 06:44:14 PM »
[...] Ruth Paine - they are her curtain rods kept in her garage from the time of the assassination

Oh, Mr Smith, you are the gift that keeps on giving! You still believe that 23 March 1964 came before 15 March 1964! 

See you over on the other thread, where you can resume getting annihilated by the evidence! :D

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I also put you down as believing the evidence that Oswald purchased and was sent a specific rifle from Klein's is the product of fakery.  Thus, a multitude of more  conspirators are added to the plot for this purpose including employees of Klein's.  That cuts against the notion of a small conspiracy.  The point is that you can't have it both ways taking issue with the evidence as being faked or the product of lies but then disputing that you are claiming that necessitates a large conspiracy.  Someone would have to be involved in the faking of all this evidence which comes from a multitude of sources.  A seemingly obvious point that can't be acknowledged due to the absurdity of its implications in a CTer fantasy.

So you still can't show us the time-stamped bank endorsement stamps. Tks for confirming!  Thumb1:

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Re: How to frame Oswald?
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2019, 07:02:35 PM »
It's a straightforward question.  Why so scared?  Maybe you could help us by clarifying which evidence against Oswald that you accept as genuine (i.e. not the product of fakery or lies).  It must be most everything since you are now running from a claim of a large conspiracy.  How about the documentation that confirms Oswald ordered and was sent a MC rifle with a specific serial number?  Genuine or not?  Don't  jump ahead to whether this proves Oswald pulled the trigger.  Just whether Oswald ordered, paid for, and was sent a specific rifle as confirmed by the documentation.  The same rifle that ends up on the 6th floor.

How about the documentation that confirms Oswald ordered and was sent a MC rifle with a specific serial number?  Genuine or not?

That's what I am trying to determine in this thread, you fool.  You would have known that if you had not been your usual disruptive self and had read the first couple of posts, in which actual discussion took place. Those would be the posts before the LNs got involved and f*cked it all up.

I'm not scared nor am I running from anything. I just don't want to deal with your hyperbolic crap and pathetic ''conclusions' .

Don't  jump ahead to whether this proves Oswald pulled the trigger.  Just whether Oswald ordered, paid for, and was sent a specific rifle as confirmed by the documentation.  The same rifle that ends up on the 6th floor.

Says he while he jumps ahead himself!
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