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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #392 on: March 23, 2018, 04:09:12 PM »
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And you are ducking and dodging like you always do. I stand by what I said.

I'm not dodging anything.  I don't care what you "stand by".  What is your evidence for what you claimed?

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #392 on: March 23, 2018, 04:09:12 PM »


Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #393 on: March 23, 2018, 04:31:32 PM »
I'm not dodging anything.  I don't care what you "stand by".  What is your evidence for what you claimed?


"only one latent palm print remains to be identified" (CE 3131, 26H 799, 809)


At least I'm not afraid to admit what I believe. I believe Oswald acted alone. See how easy that is John. You hide behind your lame excuse of "questioning" all the evidence and by implication you are showing you believe there was a conspiracy. You and people like you don't admit to believing there was a conspiracy because you know after 54 years there is not one scrap of physical or ballistic evidence that supports any of the numerous conspiracy theories. By you questioning every little piece of evidence that was gathered and examined, from Oswald's clothes, to all of the ballistic evidence, to questioning every eyewitness's testimony, if you are right, it would have to have been a conspiracy of massive proportions.It would have had to include the Dallas Police, FBI, CIA, SS, Military, medical personnel, to all of the eyewitness's that id'ed Oswald, and more. I do this for just the entertainment of debating it. What are you hoping to get out of it John? Just curious. 

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #394 on: March 23, 2018, 04:43:10 PM »

"only one latent palm print remains to be identified" (CE 3131, 26H 799, 809)


At least I'm not afraid to admit what I believe. I believe Oswald acted alone. See how easy that is John. You hide behind your lame excuse of "questioning" all the evidence and by implication you are showing you believe there was a conspiracy. You and people like you don't admit to believing there was a conspiracy because you know after 54 years there is not one scrap of physical or ballistic evidence that supports any of the numerous conspiracy theories. By you questioning every little piece of evidence that was gathered and examined, from Oswald's clothes, to all of the ballistic evidence, to questioning every eyewitness's testimony, if you are right, it would have to have been a conspiracy of massive proportions.It would have had to include the Dallas Police, FBI, CIA, SS, Military, medical personnel, to all of the eyewitness's that id'ed Oswald, and more. I do this for just the entertainment of debating it. What are you hoping to get out of it John? Just curious.

At least I'm not afraid to admit what I believe.

What a pathetic comment to make. It's actually easy to ignore the obvious problems with the evidence and go with the flow. There is no courage in saying you believe Oswald did it alone.

I do this for just the entertainment of debating it.

Except for the fact that you don't debate a damn thing. So I fixed your comment for you.

I don't believe for a second you were ever anything else but a die hard LNer. You simply lack the honesty to admit that there are serious problems with the evidence!
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #395 on: March 23, 2018, 05:35:40 PM »
At least I'm not afraid to admit what I believe. I believe Oswald acted alone.

Again, believing something without evidence is not a virtue.

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See how easy that is John.

Yes I do.  But I don't care how easy it is to believe something.  I care if it's actually true.

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You hide behind your lame excuse of "questioning" all the evidence and by implication you are showing you believe there was a conspiracy.

Only in the land of false dichotomies.  What is it about "I don't believe that the evidence shows beyond a reasonable doubt that Oswald did it" equates to "I believe there was a conspiracy" in your mind?

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You and people like you don't admit to believing there was a conspiracy because you know after 54 years there is not one scrap of physical or ballistic evidence that supports any of the numerous conspiracy theories.

. . . "and therefore Oswald did it"?  Is that how your mind works?

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By you questioning every little piece of evidence that was gathered and examined, from Oswald's clothes, to all of the ballistic evidence, to questioning every eyewitness's testimony,

Oswald's clothes prove that he killed JFK?  Do tell!  "All the ballistic evidence" proves that Oswald killed JFK?  Do tell!

What little evidence there is, is weak and circumstantial, and it's all questionable, arguable, impeachable, or tainted in some way.  I understand why you refuse to discuss it in any detail, because that becomes obvious rather quickly.

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if you are right, it would have to have been a conspiracy of massive proportions.

What, do you guys all read from the same strawman script?

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I do this for just the entertainment of debating it. What are you hoping to get out of it John? Just curious.

Clearly.  You certainly don't do this because you want to talk about the evidence.  I'm hoping that someday somebody will come up with a better argument than "the Warren Commission concluded it, I believe it, and that settles it".

Offline Alice Thorton

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #396 on: March 24, 2018, 05:34:43 PM »
I just don't get why you think that he acted alone Wesley? Even though everything that makes it lead people to believe that it wasn't just Oswald is only theories, I still just don't get why you think it was him?? Take a look at this website about the dinner the night before the assassination.

http://www.viewzone.com/lbj/lbj4.html

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #396 on: March 24, 2018, 05:34:43 PM »


Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #397 on: March 24, 2018, 06:19:07 PM »
I just don't get why you think that he acted alone Wesley? Even though everything that makes it lead people to believe that it wasn't just Oswald is only theories, I still just don't get why you think it was him?? Take a look at this website about the dinner the night before the assassination.

http://www.viewzone.com/lbj/lbj4.html

Alice, The evidence establishes beyond any reasonable doubt that Oswald alone assassinated Kennedy. I've yet to see any credible evidence showing that he was acting with or on behalf of others.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #398 on: March 24, 2018, 07:57:18 PM »

Alice, The evidence establishes beyond any reasonable doubt that Oswald alone assassinated Kennedy. I've yet to see any credible evidence showing that he was acting with or on behalf of others.


Alice, this is what happens if you keep repeating to yourself: "but his rifle was there"

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #399 on: March 25, 2018, 03:55:56 PM »
Alice, this is what happens if you keep repeating to yourself: "but his rifle was there"
Right. Oh yeah, and then he left immediately afterward, took a bus but decided it was too slow so he went home in a taxi (not responding when the driver said "I wonder what the hell is the uproar", which he obviously knew what it was about since he had figured work was shut down for the day because of it), picked up his revolver and left quickly on foot, shot Officer Tippit for no apparent reason seconds after the officer got out of his patrol car, ran down an alley and slipped into the Texas Theater without paying, pulled his gun out when police arrested him in the theater and tried to shoot the arresting officer saying "well, its all over now".

There really isn't any evidence on which a reasonable person could infer that Oswald assassinated JFK?

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #399 on: March 25, 2018, 03:55:56 PM »