A straight line

[Andrew Mason]

Andrew, I'm quite sure that I can get the SBT to work. I've done it before.

One can get it to work.  It is just that one cannot get it to work and fit the evidence. The angle at z225 is 9 degrees so the right to left travel is less.  But at z225 JBC had turned around to face forward.  With JBC facing forward it is even harder to get the right armpit over to the left so that it is 4 inches farther left than JFK's throat. Sightlines show that JBC is in the middle of his seat so his right armpit is to the right of the middle of the seat.  Also JBC's right wrist is not in a position to receive a bullet exiting below his right nipple.  And the path does not align with his left leg at all (even if his left leg was not pointing out to the left but was pointing straight forward, which is unlikely).

[Royell Storing]

It is not an assumption.  It is an inference based on the available evidence. 

There was a 6 mm entry wound on the back just to the right of the spine near the neck. There was no bullet in the body.  There was a bullet hole in JFK's neck that was observed by the medical staff at Parkland. The hole was enlarged for a tracheostomy. There were holes in JFK's shirt under the tie and a nick on the tie consistent with a bullet exiting the throat at that location.  There was evidence that bullets were fired from the SN using the 6.5 mm rifle found on the sixth floor.  Ballistics and medical evidence indicates that JFK's neck would not have stopped such a bullet. 

From that evidence one can draw a reasonable inference (I would say the only conceivable inference that can be drawn from that evidence) that the throat wound was an exit wound from the bullet that struck JFK in the back.

(1) Dr. Humes stuck his Finger into the JFK Back Wound and his finger STOPPED at roughly his 1st knuckle. (1) There was a Pristine Bullet recovered at Parkland Hospital. 1+1 = 2  The Bullet that Entered JFK's throat was extracted when his body arrived at Bethesda at 18:35. The early/clandestine arrival of JFK's body is Proven per: (1) Sgt Boyajian's Official MD-236, and (2) Humes ARRB Testimony has him 1st seeing the body of JFK at 18:45. Jackie Kennedy and JFK's Empty coffin eventually Arrived at Bethesda at 19:00. The "Official" JFK Autopsy allegedly started at roughly 20:00.   

[Tim Nickerson]

One can get it to work.  It is just that one cannot get it to work and fit the evidence. The angle at z225 is 9 degrees so the right to left travel is less.  But at z225 JBC had turned around to face forward.  With JBC facing forward it is even harder to get the right armpit over to the left so that it is 4 inches farther left than JFK's throat. Sightlines show that JBC is in the middle of his seat so his right armpit is to the right of the middle of the seat.  Also JBC's right wrist is not in a position to receive a bullet exiting below his right nipple.  And the path does not align with his left leg at all (even if his left leg was not pointing out to the left but was pointing straight forward, which is unlikely).

Andrew,

We don't know exactly where JBC's left leg was at Z223. Nor his right wrist for that matter. But we do know that he was not facing forward as you claim. He was rotated about 30 degrees to the right. Myers has him rotated 37 degrees at that point.

[Tim Nickerson]

       (1) Dr. Humes stuck his Finger into the JFK Back Wound and his finger STOPPED at roughly his 1st knuckle. (

The hole in JFK's "back" was 7 mm x 4 mm. Do you honestly believe that Humes stuck any of his fingers inside of that hole?

[Andrew Mason]

Andrew,

We don't know exactly where JBC's left leg was at Z223. Nor his right wrist for that matter. But we do know that he was not facing forward as you claim. He was rotated about 30 degrees to the right. Myers has him rotated 37 degrees at that point.

Ok. 30 degrees is a 1 o'clock position, which is plausible at z223.   But the point is that he is more forward facing that he was at z193. His right armpit has to be to   the right of his spine and is nowhere near being 4 inches left of JFK's midline, which is where it has to be for the SBT to begin to work (even ignoring the lack of any alignment of the chest exit and wrist or the wrist and left thigh).  You are right that we do not know where the left thigh was exactly but I think it would be highly unusual if his left thigh was on the right side of the jump seat. 

[Royell Storing]

The hole in JFK's "back" was 7 mm x 4 mm. Do you honestly believe that Humes stuck any of his fingers inside of that hole?

      Are you disputing the Size of the Aligned Holes in: (1) JFK's Suit Coat, (2) JFK's Dress Shirt, and (3) JFK's Back /Autopsy Photo/Autopsy Face Sheet

[Tim Nickerson]

Ok. 30 degrees is a 1 o'clock position, which is plausible at z223.   But the point is that he is more forward facing that he was at z193. His right armpit has to be to   the right of his spine and is nowhere near being 4 inches left of JFK's midline, which is where it has to be for the SBT to begin to work (even ignoring the lack of any alignment of the chest exit and wrist or the wrist and left thigh).  You are right that we do not know where the left thigh was exactly but I think it would be highly unusual if his left thigh was on the right side of the jump seat.

At Z193, Myers has Connally rotated by over 40 degrees I'm sure. The HSCA estimated his rotation to be 30 degrees to slightly over 45 degrees. So yes, 30 degrees is plausible at z223. Let's go with that.

ITEK's stereophotogammetric analysis placed Connally as much as 8.6 inches inboard of Kennedy.

[Tim Nickerson]

      Are you disputing the Size of the Aligned Holes in: (1) JFK's Suit Coat, (2) JFK's Dress Shirt, and (3) JFK's Back /Autopsy Photo/Autopsy Face Sheet

I am not disputing the size of the hole as described on the autopsy facesheet. 7 x 4 mm.