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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #192 on: March 03, 2018, 12:14:09 AM »
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Your assumption is false as even the FBI said that no one but LHO was listed to receive mail at his Dallas P.O. Box.
Do you have a cite for that? Harry Holmes, Chief Inspector of the US Postal Service for Dallas, stated that the Part 3 of the post office box application form contained a list of other people authorized to receive mail at that box and that Part 3 was thrown away (in accordance with post office practice) when the box was closed in May 1963. So, the fact is that we do not know who else may have been listed to receive mail in Box 2915, Dallas in March 1963.  Here is his testimony (7 H 527):

MR. LIEBELER -- "So there is no way, as I understand it, to tell from the records maintained, as far as you know anyway, who was authorized to receive mail at Post Office Box 2915 that Oswald had while he was here in Dallas before he went to New Orleans in April of 1963; is that correct?"

MR. HOLMES -- "Other than Oswald himself and his name on the application."

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #193 on: March 03, 2018, 12:16:08 AM »
Do you have a cite for that? Harry Holmes, Chief Inspector of the US Postal Service for Dallas, stated that the Part 3 of the post office box application form contained a list of other people authorized to receive mail at that box and that Part 3 was thrown away (in accordance with post office practice) when the box was closed in May 1963. So, the fact is that we do not know who else may have been listed to receive mail in Box 2915, Dallas in March 1963.  Here is his testimony (7 H 527):

MR. LIEBELER -- "So there is no way, as I understand it, to tell from the records maintained, as far as you know anyway, who was authorized to receive mail at Post Office Box 2915 that Oswald had while he was here in Dallas before he went to New Orleans in April of 1963; is that correct?"

MR. HOLMES -- "Other than Oswald himself and his name on the application."

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I already posted it 6 posts above this.  Look for CE 2585.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #194 on: March 03, 2018, 12:23:00 AM »
Not before the FBI saw them apparently.

Are you suggesting that the FBI saw Part 3 and then destroyed it? You will need some evidence because the Post Office said that Part 3 was thrown away in May 1963 when the box was closed. The likely explanation for the FBI memo is that they retrieved the first part of the application and assumed that since there were no other persons listed or no part 3 present that there were no others registered to receive mail.  That would, of courese, be incorrect, as Holmes explained.  The fact that the only remaining Part 3 of a post office box application made by Oswald lists Hidell and Marina as persons entitled to receive mail at that box is interesting.  In the end it does not matter. We know that the rifle and gun were sent to that box and that Oswald was in possession of them. We know this from Marina and the BY photos.


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What mail?  And don't say the rifle, because that would be a circular argument!  However, see the above.
What is circular about the fact that Klein's sent the rifle to Oswald's PO box under Hidell's name and the fact that the rifle was in Oswald's possession?

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #195 on: March 03, 2018, 12:28:28 AM »
Not before the FBI saw them apparently.








Where does it say the FBI saw anything?


What does exist is Oswald's New Orleans Post Office Application and we can all see Oswald's previous behaviour.





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Re: A straight line
« Reply #196 on: March 03, 2018, 12:33:24 AM »
Where does it say the FBI saw anything?

It's part of an FBI report.

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What does exist is Oswald's New Orleans Post Office Application and we can all see Oswald's previous behaviour.

That tells you nothing about who was authorized to receive mail at PO Box 2915 in Dallas.  And the FPFC card doesn't relate to PO boxes at all.

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #197 on: March 03, 2018, 12:56:38 AM »

What is circular about the fact that Klein's sent the rifle to Oswald's PO box under Hidell's name and the fact that the rifle was in Oswald's possession?

Probably the same thing that is circular about the fact that Seaport Traders sent the revolver to Oswald's PO box under Hidell's name and the fact that the revolver was in Oswald's possession in the Texas Theatre.


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Re: A straight line
« Reply #198 on: March 03, 2018, 01:00:47 AM »
Probably the same thing that is circular about the fact that Seaport Traders sent the revolver to Oswald's PO box under Hidell's name and the fact that the revolver was in Oswald's possession in the Texas Theatre.

Actually Tim,

If I remember correctly, Seaport had only received a 10 dollar payment when the revolver was ordered and shipped the weapon c.o.d. for the remaining balance of something like 19 dollar.

If the outstanding balance was paid upon receipt of the weapon, shouldn't there be any paperwork for that?
At least something like a confirmation for the transfer of the money to Seaport....

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« Reply #199 on: March 03, 2018, 01:02:48 AM »
It's part of an FBI report.

That tells you nothing about who was authorized to receive mail at PO Box 2915 in Dallas.  And the FPFC card doesn't relate to PO boxes at all.

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0018a.htm

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0023a.htm

What do those two tell you about who was authorized to receive mail at PO Box 2915 in Dallas?

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Re: A straight line
« Reply #199 on: March 03, 2018, 01:02:48 AM »